I'm still enjoying the series but S2 seems to be a bit hard to follow at times with the various strands, some left hanging for ages. It might have been better to wait till they finished showing it and then binged the season in stead of waiting week by week.
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Some of the end-of-season cliffhangers can be just as bad, if not worse. However, between the two, I would rather do as you suggested and just wait for the season to wrap up. I've been doing this with other shows on other streaming services as well, and filling out the time until then by watching movies or "shorts".
I don't know where it is going. It becomes too complicated, old characters do not die and disappear, they add to the new ones. It feel that it starts to miss the whole point of the Foundation saga: its duration is over generations. Important people get remembered but do not survive.
I’m confused about the latest episode, why do they kill again Hari Seldon? He just came back. 🤦♂️
That was a cliffhanger. We don’t know for sure that he is dead.
I read this series of books many many years ago and seem to remember that I enjoyed them, but on the basis of this series I wouldnt read them again!
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The show is nothing like the books by the 4th episode ...
Book: 'Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent'
Show: 'GIMME GUUUNNNNZZZZZZ'
Also Book: 'Hari Seldon died'
Show: 'Yeah, about that ... '
It is written such that Hari’s death may still be the historical record. He did die on that ship on the way to Terminus. This is a clone of Hari. He may also be dead now, we’ll see, but we don’t know that this clone’s existence will ever be known outside of people within the Second Foundation.
A lot of what you are seeing is that the show is revealing the Second Foundation earlier and more clearly than the books did. It’s helps move the story better than following the book too closely.
As the violence, the Empire is full of it. Some characters are using violence. Is that surprising? I recall quite a lot of violence either in the book or implied by dialog. Hard to tell since the books were very heavy on dialog and less on actually showing the events. I’m glad that they are taking a more cinematic approach to the stories and not trying to mimic the books too much.
this weeks episode finally revealed some of the secrets (we as an audience knew already) to the characters.
About time.
About time.
- Bride to be: "I know you're a robot Demezel"
- Bride to be to Cleon "You killed my family Cleon dun dun by Demezels hand?: dun dun"
- the dawn Cleon cheating with day Cleon's bride to be set up
- the Spacers receive a independent freedom offer from the Harry Seldon red robe thief priest
- the General/BF talk about options/outcomes if the would go against the Empire
- disovery of floating Harry clone or whatever - of corse by Salvor
- and now Salvor is offed too...
- trapped on "telepath world" "dead" Salvor, "dead" Harry "clone" and unaware Gal
- is the cult leader lady the mule?
I’m listening to the official Foundation podcast and it really gives some good insights to the characters and to what the writers are thinking about this world. I know some critics on there have asked “what were they thinking?” about some of the decisions and directions of the show. At least some of those are explored in these discussions with David S. Goyer (showrunner) and various directors, actors, and writers joining for different episodes.
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/foundation-the-official-podcast/id1586219793
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/foundation-the-official-podcast/id1586219793
I still don't understand why the second foundation is appearing so early. For me that's too many characters active at the same time. My souvenir from reading the book was less complicated, but maybe I forgot part of it.
I think this has been a much more engaging season. Last season they had to spend so much time setting the background. This year they’ve been able to focus more on the plot and characters.
This'll be good for the road! (although I'll have to see what options I have to access this from an Android phone :x )
That is a url that you can add to any podcast player. give it a try.
Try this https://rss.art19.com/foundation-the-official-podcast
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Thanks for the info! IIRC, I did access a podcast from a phone via internet before, using a website, but that was soo long ago!
I'm just getting an XML page. Is this something I'd need to access directly on an Android phone (as opposed to a desktop web browser)?
It looks like you don't even need to be a subscriber so this looks like it'll work!
Episode 9 was FANTASTIC. This is easily top 5 sci-fi IMO. Finale is gonna be epic but the cliffhanger is going to brutal I just know
Yeah but that ending.. WTF!? They're either going in a totally different direction from the books (as if that wasn't obvious already haha) or that's some major misdirection... Either way, it seems like a major change...
Good surprise. Remember that Hari was embodied by the prime radiant. He may not be strictly human, anymore.
This is one of those shows where each episode is engaging enough in itself to keep me hooked, but I have lost track of what the overarching plot even is. 
I’m guessing/hoping this will be explained in the final episode….