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“Foundation” discussion thread
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Any info on wtf they will actually be able to do or just continue on the Foundation saga via screenplay?
I think Apple did an excellent job bringing a hardly readable OG sci-fi book series to modern tv standards while still being able to convey the original messages of the book(s).
Witcher was painfully hard to watch for the first 4-5 episodes. I contemplated stopping watching it a few times because it was so hard to watch and confusing as to what I was even watching. By the end of season one, they finally had captured the whole story about wtf was going on in the world and season 2 was pretty ok. IT wasn't the best fantasy series but it was not the worst.
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That is not true. Denis Villeneuve’s adaptation of “Dune” shows that it can be done properly. If Apple did as well with Foundation, no one would be complaining.
Fans of the series can’t defend it, so they resort to analyzing the alleged motives of anyone who criticizes it. An example of the logical fallacy known as “Bulverism”.
Stellar review for Season 2:
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Foundation Season 2 Review: A spectacular adaptation expanding Asimov’s universe
David Goyer adapted the unadaptable with the first season of Apple TV+'s Foundation. Has he achieved the same with Season Two?
www.scifinow.co.uk
I just finished up my re-watch of season 1. I almost forgot what a wonderfully made show this is. Great acting, story (I never read any of the books so I am enjoying the story it is telling), dynamics of the players, and production values. I did not have a 4K TV when it first came out on ATV+, but I do now and watching the show in 4K HDR Dolby Vision is a visual treat. It looks fantastic. I am going to start season 2 on Friday so I can watch 2 episodes.
I am very happy they do not dump all episodes. Eliminates the conflict with my wife, who likes to binge.
I like it one show at a time.
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I will take the "binge all episodes at once" every time. I hate waiting for episodes now. I'm spoiled.
In general, I agree, but this time, when the episode was over, I was ready for another one right away.
I'm an avid Asimov fun, read the full foundation series, but this adaptation makes me cringe. I can understand, that they have to make some changes to adapt the novels for a tv show, but boy, oh boy, they are faar away from the essence, storyline, feeling of the books.
I loved the original books but that was a long time ago (and much closer to when they were first publlshed) and the books were not something that fits well into a cinematic representation without reinterpretation. i wouldn’t want to see a literal move version of the books. I’m glad that they took that world and gave us a fresh view of it.
From what I can gather from book readers feedback: the show puts it's own take on certain stories and characters, taking some liberties - so it isn't a like for like live action version anyway.
Haven't read the books, just a very very broadstroke summary paragraph of the main story.
Haven't read the books, just a very very broadstroke summary paragraph of the main story.
Read the books and loved them all. I watched season 1 and it was nowhere in line with the books and made things confusing. I stopped watching and will not continue with season 2. I hope another studio like hbo might do a better job in the future if given the chance.
Appletv is trying to hard and has had many misses than hits last few years.
Appletv is trying to hard and has had many misses than hits last few years.
This is the same old story of an adaptation not living up to what the book reader expects. Nothing wrong with that. This happens a lot to loved source material. I've been there with adaptations not meeting my expectations and going, why?! But as a non-book reader, I am loving Foundation.
I am not sure what other misses you think Apple has had. Most of the shows I have watched have been excellent. I guess one of the better book adaptations is Silo. From what I have seen and read, they made some small changes from the books but most have said they nailed the adaptation. Even the author.
I am not sure what other misses you think Apple has had. Most of the shows I have watched have been excellent. I guess one of the better book adaptations is Silo. From what I have seen and read, they made some small changes from the books but most have said they nailed the adaptation. Even the author.
I really enjoyed Season 1, but have been finding Season 2 a bit...difficult to engage with.
It jumped about a bit too much at the beginning and I got a little lost time-wise.
It's settled back into a rhythm again and I am back to enjoying it, but it nearly lost me there for a minute.
It jumped about a bit too much at the beginning and I got a little lost time-wise.
It's settled back into a rhythm again and I am back to enjoying it, but it nearly lost me there for a minute.
Most never are and for a good reason. Did you like the Marvel movies with Thanos? They were so far removed from the comics it left your head spinning, lol.
Books are books and movies are movies. Geez
FWIW, I believe there was a MUCH LARGER descrepency between the novels and TV series, but as I mentioned previously in response to those who wish it were "one-to-one", it was deemed the novels would be terribly paced in a TV series...Most never are and for a good reason. Did you like the Marvel movies with Thanos? They were so far removed from the comics it left your head spinning, lol.
Books are books and movies are movies. Geez
While the production quality seems a bit improved, season 2 has been a lot less entertaining to me so far.
Don't really care about the empire "aranged marriage thing" nor and the ramp up for the "telepaths" story part is dull/needs more pace.
The only interesting stories so far are the empire internal conspiracy on who/what/why deletes the empire dawn/day/dusk memmories and the "church of Harry Seldon" (the red robbed brothers/sisters and the resourcful "thief")
The only interesting stories so far are the empire internal conspiracy on who/what/why deletes the empire dawn/
I don't know how many seasons we'll get of this show, and I have yet to watch season 2. However, I do hope they do go on long enough to cover...
When the Empire actually falls. S01, Seldon stated the Empire will fall within 5 centuries. It's been 100 years since season 2, so season 5 or season 6 at this rate?
I think either the time jumps will increase or the story will be accelerated. No data, just a gut feeling.
My guess is season 2 is finalising the setup for what you hope they will cover and it will happen in Season 3.
I just hope they will not "milk it" to the point where you forgot what you liked about the series and left wondering why it's still on lol.
I know ... I decided early in Season 1 that I wasn't going to care how much of the books the abandoned / contradicted ... the problem I am now having is figuring out whether I ever actually liked the show ... and perhaps the frequency I am asking myself that question is answer in itself.