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iCloud has become the most confusing service ever
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Wah..... This photo stream thinggy is confusing..... and I thought iOS is suppose to be user friendly...... 
So right now, there's no solution yet?
Because I'm also with the TS, I want to be able to manage what's on my phone and what's in the cloud.....
So right now, there's no solution yet?
Because I'm also with the TS, I want to be able to manage what's on my phone and what's in the cloud.....
Also, the split-up between 'Recently added' and 'Moments' instead of a single Camera Roll is utterly stupid.
If I want to share a photo in Whatsapp, I can only access photos from the last month or so.
I wonder if the iCloud/iOS team even uses an iPhone personally? I can't believe you would design it this way if you do...
If I want to share a photo in Whatsapp, I can only access photos from the last month or so.
I wonder if the iCloud/iOS team even uses an iPhone personally? I can't believe you would design it this way if you do...
My issue.
I accept that any photo I take is stored both on the device and in the cloud - if deleted locally I lose both.
The issue is that as a budding photographer I just imported 1000 photos into iPhoto on my Mac and iCloud is now transferring them all to my iPhone 6 plus!
Now the problem is that I don't want these particular photos on my iPhone or my iPad just in iPhoto on my Mac.
I assume deleting them on my iPhone or iPad won't delete them from my Mac? (Also deleting a 1000 photos is time consuming).
Im going to need to rethink my workflow as a photographer.
I accept that any photo I take is stored both on the device and in the cloud - if deleted locally I lose both.
The issue is that as a budding photographer I just imported 1000 photos into iPhoto on my Mac and iCloud is now transferring them all to my iPhone 6 plus!
Now the problem is that I don't want these particular photos on my iPhone or my iPad just in iPhoto on my Mac.
I assume deleting them on my iPhone or iPad won't delete them from my Mac? (Also deleting a 1000 photos is time consuming).
Im going to need to rethink my workflow as a photographer.
My friebd iCloud library hasn't been released ul yet to public.. They shifted it back to beta.. When they release it, it'll be much more clear ..
And for your other questions up.. I read the answers and they didn't answer well so here it is..
With iCloud drive, iCloud documents store in the cloud.. Previously it was Documents in the cloud, meaning only that same app could access it's own documents and not others.. With iCloud Drive all apps in all devices can access it.. So suppose you have an app say ms office PowerPoint, and if the presentations are stored in your drive, and you have a keynote app in your iphone, and since keynote(I think opens ppt) it will be able to open the presentation of ms office.. Before iCloud Drive, only ms office could access it's own presentations and keynote could access only it's own keynotes, but now it's open to all.. Now you don't need to make folders on an iPhone(cause it would be a little tricky) so the option is available only on a PC.. So now ALL YOUR FILES can be accessed by ALL YOUR APPS.. And on ios there isn't another app for iCloud Drive, because all the documents which u make on apps will be automatically uploaded to the iCloud Drive if the app has comaoribility with it..
iCloud Photo Library- it's the similar to iCloud Drive .. On iOS when it'll be released in a few months, all your photos on your iOS device will be able to be shifted to the cloud of u want..The same thing on a Mac and PC..
Now u may have certain albums u sync your iPhone from ur PC .. Well that'll no longer be allowed.. Reason, you can drag and drop all the photos on your Mac and PC into the iCloud library and get it on your devices, so u no longer need to sync your iPhone with itubes to get photos stored on your computer, that work has been shifted to iCloud library..
So see? It's not that difficult to understand.. If u have any other questions, happy to help #
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this is exactly why Apples way of doing the cloud is completely backwards and redic. you are supposed to know which app has been updated to view a file when they cant even get their own apps ready to support it on time!
no wonder everyones confused. its a MESS
I got to page three and got a headache. I also came here with a headache
by page three I came to this conclusion.
1- Dont use albums view anymore unless you create the album yourself and place photos in there.
2 - use Photos as thats where all your photos are.
3 - recently added is just that. Anything added from taking a photo on your iPhone, iPad or screen shot from mac (and then added to photo stream)
all the above assumes you did not activate iCloud drive on your iPhone when you upgraded to ios8
if anyone wants to shout at me forget it. Im not interested as apple has given me enough of a headache at the moment. iOS 8 change things damn fuddling my brain haha
by page three I came to this conclusion.
1- Dont use albums view anymore unless you create the album yourself and place photos in there.
2 - use Photos as thats where all your photos are.
3 - recently added is just that. Anything added from taking a photo on your iPhone, iPad or screen shot from mac (and then added to photo stream)
all the above assumes you did not activate iCloud drive on your iPhone when you upgraded to ios8
if anyone wants to shout at me forget it. Im not interested as apple has given me enough of a headache at the moment. iOS 8 change things damn fuddling my brain haha
No idea. Tried it with Numbers which is supposed to becompatible with iCloud Drive... nothing to be seen.
I have several thousand .jpg files (images of historical documents) which I have carefully placed into folders on my iCloud Drive. I'm using Yosemite and can see these files exactly as expected on any Yosemite Mac. I can't see them anywhere on my IOS devices running IOS8! given they are .jpg files I would expect to see them with the photos app? If I go to the iCloud.com web page I get diverted to Apple.com and told to set up iCloud Drive on my device. This has already been done and I have family share working to prove it.
Given that we can create folders on the iCloud Drive, then there has to be a way to navigate those folders in order to find app specific files.. This is what File Picker was supposed to do! Where is it? And if we can access files, why can't we attach them to mails in IOS?
I feel we've been badly let down and misled. I bought additional iCloud storage for this functionality and it simply does not exist! What's more, not the slightest response from Apple to explain why.
The only time I've seen such screen on the wild is on the Cloud Magic (true story), an app that can add attachments to your emails, pulling them from iCloud Drive (and Dropbox, etc).
It seems to work albeit I don't get to see the covers of my pdf files, only the title.
App Store link: CloudMagic by CloudMagic, Inc.
https://appsto.re/gb/Q6-aR.i
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You can get that screen when adding a file to dropbox. Still haven't figured out how to get pages or numbers to work.
I don't think icloud photo is meant to replace external hard drives that store years worth of digital photography. As a photographer I have terabytes worth of digital negatives stored in hard drives, neatly tucked away and archived.
What I will use icloud photo for is with my iphone snap shots. Even though I also back up my iphone shots yearly with image capture (and then delete off the phone to create more space for more photos), it will be nice to have a cloud back up of those photos which for me will be the most recent collection (or year in my case) that is also on my phone and accessible across devices like my ipad.
You need an app that uses the new CloudKit API. There's only a handful right now. One example is the latest version of the Dropbox app. To see the screen you posted: Tap "..." in the top right corner, then "Add Files" and "iCloud". You can now select files from your iCloud folders to import to Dropbox.
see thats so stupid to me, you have to "investigate" and guess what apps may have been updated to support it and then hope the app can even handle said file instead of giving me some kind of "file manager" where i can tap on the file and it tells me available apps i can pick to open the file (maybe even give suggestions of apps from the appstore that can open it if i got none installed that do). its so backwards
I see what you're saying, but iOS will likely never work like that. One major reason is that all apps and their files remain sandboxed (i.e. isolated from each other) for security reasons, so there is still no shared file system for apps. With the new iOS 8 document managament features (such as the provider extensions) Apple implemented ways to share files across apps in a carefully controlled way without giving up the security benefits of sandboxing.
In my opinion, these features are among the most powerful enhancements in iOS 8. But it will take some time for both app developers and users to become familiar with the possibilities. It will change the way we work with documents in iOS.
well they could make an dropbox like app that only shows your stuff thats in ur drive, isnt it like it is done now just the other way around. i dont mean to gain access to root folders or what not
So iCloud isn't confusing, it's just that the iOS 8 release was a disaster?
That's not true. With the way that you can spin up instances of AWS and Azure (the services that Apple uses to host iCloud), if you need more space you just push a button. Need another server? Just push a button. The only way that this isn't feasible is if Apple maxed out Amazon, Microsoft, and their own data centers.
iWork apps have been updated "for iOS 8" and with "iCloud drive compatibility". I expexted to see that feature but it doesn't seem to make use of it...
Its pretty obvious iCloud Drive and iCloud Photo Library aren't fully implemented yet so just wait before losing your heads.
Also reading the comments on here in surprised at people asking why they can't access their music and video files stored in iCloud drive on iOS, did people seriously think this was going to be possible on your phone?
Also reading the comments on here in surprised at people asking why they can't access their music and video files stored in iCloud drive on iOS, did people seriously think this was going to be possible on your phone?
Yes!
Apple have made much of the following..
If there is a short term problem then I would have expected Apple to tell us, it's customers.. On the other hand we have heard predictions on here since the first iterations of IOS that we'll 'soon' be able to access files and attach them to mails etc.. I for one am beginning to wonder why the promises made at the developer conference are not included and even whether they will be.
it's not hard, but I think their point is they want some contents stored local and some on the cloud, and that's not possible right now
I'll admit that wording is confusing/misleading. But I really find it hard to believe anyone familiar with the way the Apple ecosystem works would have believed even for a second that you would be able to plonk your music files in iCloud drive and listen to them in your Music app, completely bypassing the need for iTunes or iTunes match, will never happen. If this is important to people you should be on Android not iOS.