He knows absolutely nothing along with the rest of us. That is all there is to it.
Whilst I understand you can post pretty much whatever you like here, personally I would prefer if you didn’t mention him again.
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He knows absolutely nothing along with the rest of us. That is all there is to it.
Whilst I understand you can post pretty much whatever you like here, personally I would prefer if you didn’t mention him again.
While Gurman and other sources like Zollo have been very unreliable of late, I believe other forum members are perfectly free to cite them, even if I don’t think they’re accurate.
Just because someone cites a source to bolster their speculative opinion doesn’t mean they’re doing so “blindly”.
Don’t mind the overreactions, you’re completely free to your opinion. 👍🏻
Which is exactly what I said. I just personally would prefer not to see posts about Zollo and others.
Not jumping in on this fight…but just here to say…I have found the educated guesses by some of the forum members here that track past releases/updates to be as accurate if not more than the folks being quoted.
I would surmise then that the comments posting these “guesses” by people who do this for a living are no better than the ones done in here by forum members just passionate about iOS.
Anyway…I will agree that posting rumors by those paid to do it for a living isn’t the worst thing for context sake…but I also agree it doesn’t help.
Great job to those that do track and post…and are correct! I’m too busy with work/life to do it on a regular basis.
I'd like to take an informal poll. How many on this forum are running 17.5ß3 and actively developing an iOS app? I'm trying to get started, but with work and life haven't yet found the time.
Same, I wholeheartedly appreciate @dk001 and other forum members that objectively and critically inform us about betas and report the bugs to Apple.
I personally don’t like to update my devices regularly and prefer to stay in stable and efficient releases for months until a new one is worth the risk. That’s why their feedback is so valuable for me.
I think it’s possible, the 3rd beta that I’m running is very stable for me, I don’t think there’s much else for them to fix or improve for this update. But of course I don’t know, and it’s quite possible they may release another beta and release the RC after a beta 4.
Seems unlikely. Assuming the iPads that are most probably going to be announced on May 7th are not available for immediate purchase, it seems more likely that the RC would be released on May 7th (to avoid revealing any hardware "secrets") and then the public release would be the day before public availability of the new iPads. If we get the RC on 4/30, then we'll have a pretty good idea that the iPads will be available for immediate purchase after the event.
That’s a good point. Personally, I’m not sure I buy the reports that the iPad’s were delayed, that seems more like an excuse for inaccurate “leaks”. Gurman seems to be just throwing out guesses at this point, and then when his guess turns out to be wrong, seems like he chalks it up to a “delay”, rather than his prediction being inaccurate. That’s at least my thoughts on that. But yeah, if the iPad’s were delayed, then I guess it may be more likely, but if they weren’t delayed (which I suspect to be the case), then your timeframe seems probable. 👍🏻
Beta 4, for the reasons stated by @gwhizkids above.
I am looking forward to confirmation of this beta cycle to be predictable with a beta 4. The received calls now only shows edit, and from there you can select and delete immediately. Occasionally in the recent past it sometimes didn't provide select and you need to reboot for it update so you could do that. Progress it seems.
Next beta tomorrow, RC on the 7th and release on the 13?
The last will depend on when the new iPads actually ship/are available in stores. But I think that’s directionally correct.
apparently apple is working on a new update to fix the alarm bug. At this point I could still see that coming in 17.5 since we are so close
We start the back count for them to launch the beta....... 
Got it OTA - Beta 4 - iPhone 15 Pro
Edit: also got it on my iPad Pro
Edit: also got it on my iPad Pro
