But the budget Android is not even close to the “budget” iPhone. When people talk about budget Android, they mean $100 phones, not $400. $400 is considered mid range already, and Android phones in that segment are fine. The problem with budget cheap Android phones is that they are usually equipped with the slow eMMC storage, and SoC without any performance cores (mostly are old SoCs with just A53 or A55 cores).
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iPhone SE (2016) IPhone SE 2 seems more popular than iPhone 12 mini - implications?
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The SE has also seen far more in the way of deep discounts, particularly among prepaid services. It makes the price gap even wider.
I don't think Apple will even sell the XR directly in 2022.
The AT&T and Verizon postpaid discounts ($200 off) are very nice, too. We spend more than that in a month on dining out (well, take out/delivery now).
Tmobile for a short time around Christmas had- Trade in an iPhone 8 or newer and get an iPhone 12 mini 64 free.
If they did this for a longer period of time, the 12 mini would have higher sales numbers and this thread wouldn't exist.
Point being, in the USA the carriers often dictate what device sells best.
Walmart had 50% off an iPhone SE on Verizon with 24 months. $8 a month added to your bill. Maybe that's why the SE was/is popular? Carrier deals.
If they did this for a longer period of time, the 12 mini would have higher sales numbers and this thread wouldn't exist.
Point being, in the USA the carriers often dictate what device sells best.
Walmart had 50% off an iPhone SE on Verizon with 24 months. $8 a month added to your bill. Maybe that's why the SE was/is popular? Carrier deals.
This myth? It uses the same chassis, lots of tear downs confirm that.
Here is the important quote shared across the board:
"iFixit found that the iPhone SE's speaker, chassis, vibrator, SIM tray and display assembly, which includes the LCD, digitizer, front camera, earpiece speaker and proximity sensor are the same parts used in the iPhone 5s."
iPhone 5/5S cases fit new iPhone SE
Good news for potential iPhone SE owners: Plenty of cases will be available for Apple's new 4-inch iPhone.
iFixit: The iPhone SE and iPhone 5S share many identical parts
The design is the same, sure, but many of the parts are actually interchangeable.
Teardown Finds iPhone SE and iPhone 5s Displays Interchangeable
Yesterday, Chipworks' teardown of the iPhone SE confirmed that the new device uses a potpourri of components from several past iPhones, including...
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People new to Apple think when we say SE we mean SE2.This myth? It uses the same chassis, lots of tear downs confirm that.
Here is the important quote shared across the board:
"iFixit found that the iPhone SE's speaker, chassis, vibrator, SIM tray and display assembly, which includes the LCD, digitizer, front camera, earpiece speaker and proximity sensor are the same parts used in the iPhone 5s."
iPhone 5/5S cases fit new iPhone SE
Good news for potential iPhone SE owners: Plenty of cases will be available for Apple's new 4-inch iPhone.www.cnet.com
iFixit: The iPhone SE and iPhone 5S share many identical parts
The design is the same, sure, but many of the parts are actually interchangeable.arstechnica.com
Teardown Finds iPhone SE and iPhone 5s Displays Interchangeable
Yesterday, Chipworks' teardown of the iPhone SE confirmed that the new device uses a potpourri of components from several past iPhones, including...
I was hopeful for an SE Plus in the 5.5" size but I'm starting to think that the 8 Plus is the best 5.5" iPhone that will ever be made. Where are the SE Plus rumors that people are talking about? I haven't seen them. When viewing 4:3 and 16:9 content at their native size, the 5.5" size is larger than 6.1" iPhone and anything lower than that. Even the 6.5" is only about 3% larger in this respect.
I don't see another 4.7" phone either. I think the most likely option is that it will be a 6.1" without a notch, which will definitely look appealing to consumers. No way do they go with mini size. On the mini I say it gets 1 more year, but unlikely to get 2 years. Just because they stop making them (or make less) doesn't mean they're discontinuing it preemptively, same thing happened with 15" FP iMac, yet they sold those up until the whole line was discontinued.
I don't see another 4.7" phone either. I think the most likely option is that it will be a 6.1" without a notch, which will definitely look appealing to consumers. No way do they go with mini size. On the mini I say it gets 1 more year, but unlikely to get 2 years. Just because they stop making them (or make less) doesn't mean they're discontinuing it preemptively, same thing happened with 15" FP iMac, yet they sold those up until the whole line was discontinued.
This myth? It uses the same chassis, lots of tear downs confirm that.
Here is the important quote shared across the board:
"iFixit found that the iPhone SE's speaker, chassis, vibrator, SIM tray and display assembly, which includes the LCD, digitizer, front camera, earpiece speaker and proximity sensor are the same parts used in the iPhone 5s."
iPhone 5/5S cases fit new iPhone SE
Good news for potential iPhone SE owners: Plenty of cases will be available for Apple's new 4-inch iPhone.
iFixit: The iPhone SE and iPhone 5S share many identical parts
The design is the same, sure, but many of the parts are actually interchangeable.
Teardown Finds iPhone SE and iPhone 5s Displays Interchangeable
Yesterday, Chipworks' teardown of the iPhone SE confirmed that the new device uses a potpourri of components from several past iPhones, including...
You can see with your own eyes that it isn’t. Experienced case swappers will also tell you the chassis is cut different near the rear camera area.
That’s the problem with quoting websites instead of the source material. If you read the iFixit teardown, they make no such claim that the chassis is identical.
So please, let’s not perpetuate the myth again. The chassis is not the same.
My sincerest apologies. My assumption was people working on a general level of "same", not a granular level which you were operating on.Ironic isn’t it?Try not to assume next time.
I know I’m bummed. At least maybe till apple repurposes the design year from now and turns the mini to the se 4 or 5.
Price. The Mini is overpriced. The majority of people looing at this size are not social media power users or people who work from their phones. They are people who only use the phone for calling, texting and emails. The price is out of touch with the target consumer.
I went for the SE 2 because despite enjoying the size of the mini I found the overall feeling in my hand to be more comfortable with the SE 2. I also love Touch ID as I am out most of the day with that mask on. I would love an SE 3 with the mini chassis and Touch ID in power button or better yet under screen! Just my personal feelings!
Interesting. Can you elaborate more? The mini is smaller, lighter, and has a grippier body style with its squared-off edges. The SE 2 on the other hand feels to me like it could slip out at any moment. Do you use a case?
I don’t use a case. I like the rounded feel. When I talk on the phone it has a great feeling of comfort in my hand. It is also perfect for one handed use. The mini is not bad for one handed use although I struggle to reach the top of the screen with my thumb which is something I’m able to do with the SE 2. If they make the SE 3 in the mini chassis with a Touch ID sensor under the screen or in the power button I would likely switch if it offered 5G. So it’s not that I don’t like the form factor of the mini it’s just that I like the SE 2 more. I’m living in the moment and enjoying this phone immensely.
Another point for me on the SE vs 12 mini and upwards - it is priced so that I use it more, e.g. when working outside. If I owned a 12 I would have to leave it indoors when doing hard manual labor.
The SE also invites to less screen-on-time. And that is not a dumb thing. But the 12 mini is without a doubt a stellar product, it is a matter of priority.
The SE also invites to less screen-on-time. And that is not a dumb thing. But the 12 mini is without a doubt a stellar product, it is a matter of priority.
I am not talking about watching Tik-Tok instead of working, but rather not carrying it in case it might get damaged.
Other than all the good point this thread has come up, also remember one of the Mini's "Job" is to push the price of iPhone 12 to $799 bracket.
The original iPhone SE was almost a no-compromise iPhone for $399. Apart from the screen size, which was a compromise for some but a plus for others, it had current design, current chip, RAM and camera same as flagship iPhone. Fantastic value if you didn't mind a 4" screen.
This current SE is not that. It's just a cheap (-ish) iPhone, outdated already on release in almost every way.
I assume that SE 3, should it happen, will unfortunately be the same. Likely an iPhone XR design, which will be 4-5 yo out of date by that time, bezels will as look ridiculous compared to all the competition as the SE 2 (iPhone 8 design) looks now, an LCD screen still, a notch while it will be gone on the flagship iPhone, and of course camera heavily compromised too.
This current SE is not that. It's just a cheap (-ish) iPhone, outdated already on release in almost every way.
I assume that SE 3, should it happen, will unfortunately be the same. Likely an iPhone XR design, which will be 4-5 yo out of date by that time, bezels will as look ridiculous compared to all the competition as the SE 2 (iPhone 8 design) looks now, an LCD screen still, a notch while it will be gone on the flagship iPhone, and of course camera heavily compromised too.
Current design: nope, latest design at the time was curved edges while SE had 5/5s style boxier chassis (which the 12 series have gone back to)
Current chip: yes
RAM: yes
Camera: same as 6s, missing OIS from 6s Plus
Funnily enough, a lot of people called the OG SE the same thing. As I recall, there were plenty of posts calling out the SE for using leftover parts from the iPhone 5s and being outdated back when it was released. ??♀️
One can even argue that the OG SE had a more modern design than the flagship (6s), as we're back to squared edges ??
Anyway, OG SE in terms of screen-to-bezel ratio was identical to flagship iPhone. And the one after too (iPhone 7). Same about camera. OG SE didn't really get outdated in terms of design untill iPhone X (1,5 years later) and in terms of camera until iPhone XS probably (because of Smart HDR) - that was 2,5 years of "current" camera.
Also, lets not forget about battery life. The battery on original SE lasted even longer than the flagship 6s. Today it sounds nuts.
My point stands - at the time of release original SE was a superior offering than the current SE in almost every way.
Looking at Apple's strategy it was probably a one-time coincidence. And going forward no budget iPhone would be as close to flagship iPhone ever again.