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Lenovo X1 Extreme
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Fun with windows.
Installed windows on the new 970 (hence my earlier posts), and I come to find out that I'm running into errors. i'm getting a 0xC0EA000A and no apps are downloading. I google this and spent a good portion of the morning on dealing with that with no success. Since its a fresh install, I just say **** it and reformat and do it over.
Now the windows install tells me the EFI partition is NTFS and I cannot install windows, even though I didn't touch anything. LOL.
I pull the old drive from the laptop and try again, no funky errors doing the install and I repeat much of the stuff I had already done last night and this morning. At least now the app store is back to working and I have the original drive back in the laptop.
I will give apple credit, where this nonsense never happens.
Installed windows on the new 970 (hence my earlier posts), and I come to find out that I'm running into errors. i'm getting a 0xC0EA000A and no apps are downloading. I google this and spent a good portion of the morning on dealing with that with no success. Since its a fresh install, I just say **** it and reformat and do it over.
Now the windows install tells me the EFI partition is NTFS and I cannot install windows, even though I didn't touch anything. LOL.
I pull the old drive from the laptop and try again, no funky errors doing the install and I repeat much of the stuff I had already done last night and this morning. At least now the app store is back to working and I have the original drive back in the laptop.
I will give apple credit, where this nonsense never happens.
Looks like the X1 Extreme 2nd generation was released - 9th generation processors and GTX1650 as expected. No other differences I can tell.
Good to see, but I wonder how many times is going to be sent back by you know who? I would like to see the follow-up to the surface book 2 possibly called the service book 3
I really want the Surface Book 3 or whatever they choose to call it in black
I think the U-series + RTX 2060 combo in a refined, slimmer design for the Surface Book 3 would be fantastic and really standout as much as the U-series + GTX 1060 did at the time.
The Surface Book is so damn unique and I wanted one so bad - the only things that turned me off of it is the notebook when “closed” being so thick, oddly shaped and having so much open space, and the well-documented reliability issues of Surface products, although this is improving steadily as the generations go by. I really think SB3 will be a banger.
Please tell me you are not tempted by one of these.
I really want the Surface Book 3 or whatever they choose to call it in black
Apparently the black is known for chipping very easily and looking shabby. It's a paint job rather than a bonded/powder coated kind of finish.
Trial and error, try reducing all values by a factor of 2-3 and see if that makes a difference. I would just set one profile in Throttle stop and experiment. By reducing the Turbo Limits, you will reduce the power draw and temperature, equally you are also reducing performance and associated fan noise.
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To save all a great deal of time Gen 2 will be 90% same as the Gen 1, no it wont be magically silent, fans will spool up and they will produce noise...
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Oh? That's a bummer if true. I saw a video a while back on the process. There is a thin ceramic layer added to the surface of the magnesium and then I believe like 7 coats of the black finish. I would have hoped it would be more durable.
Lenovo has had its own issues with that, Yoga, X1C, possibly the X1E. Not sure if black is just not such a great idea? Or mostly complaints from folks who don't take care of their gear?
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkP...int-comes-off-very-easily/td-p/4132530/page/4
@SDColorado - oh dear, those laptops look awful. That should never happen. I've seen other models of thinkpads which are quite old and not subject to this kind of wear - I wonder if the bad paint job is confined to certain models. I would be furious if mine ended up like that.
I saw a 6 month old X1E recently where one of the bottom corners had chipped off (so much for being rugged - or maybe it had been dropped from a great height) and it appeared to be black all the way through. Confusing.
I saw a 6 month old X1E recently where one of the bottom corners had chipped off (so much for being rugged - or maybe it had been dropped from a great height) and it appeared to be black all the way through. Confusing.
I've seen those and that was one reason that gave me pause in all trustfulness In the end, I decided to take the plunge and roll the dice. I don't think its the color black but the coating that is used. I have no idea what else lenovo could do, but clearly a coating may not be the best option
You also have to be mindful that Mil-Std-810G is about durability under averse conditions, not cosmetics. The bigger question is "was the notebook working as intended?" as that's what the standard is fundamentally about. Panasonic's ToughBooks are best described as the G-Shock of the notebook world, equally at a handsome price
Technically impressive, however performance is not their strong point TBH I don't disagree as OEM's need to try harder. I for one living and working across the tropics and sub tropics always try to avoid these soft touch finishes, as they invariably fail within 36-48 months due to the high humidity. They generally become sticky, if not gooey messes and very far from being anything remotely soft to the touch
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Oh? That's a bummer if true. I saw a video a while back on the process. There is a thin ceramic layer added to the surface of the magnesium and then I believe like 7 coats of the black finish. I would have hoped it would be more durable.
Lenovo has had its own issues with that, Yoga, X1C, possibly the X1E. Not sure if black is just not such a great idea? Or mostly complaints from folks who don't take care of their gear?
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkP...int-comes-off-very-easily/td-p/4132530/page/4![4]()
It's not good give the premium. Personally I'll take cosmetic issue over the notebook being unusable due to keyboard failure, and any other special "hardware feature" TBH a little wear & tear is the very least of my considerations
Certainly doesn't exonerate Lenovo. As for the black SP6 it's just a surface finish, should the underlying substrate be damaged due to impact the surface finish will fail up to including DLC (Diamond Like Carbon) which is literally "hard as nails" I like the black SP6, that said I'd be going for silver as my gear gets knocked about. As the say the first scratch is always the deepest
Just to add up; I noticed similar on some of the ThinkPad 2in1's where the contact points showed visible wear from being in "tent" mode for lack of better words. Admittedly display models, equally a couple of well placed rubber bumpers would clearly alleviate the issue at minimal cost to the aesthetic...
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TBH a little wear & tear is the very least of my considerations Certainly doesn't exonerate Lenovo. As for the black SP6 it's just a surface finish, should the underlying substrate be damaged due to impact the surface finish will fail up to including DLC (Diamond Like Carbon) which is literally "hard as nails"
I like the black SP6, that said I'd be going for silver as my gear gets knocked about. As the say the first scratch is always the deepest Just to add up; I noticed similar on some of the ThinkPad 2in1's where the contact points showed visible wear from being in "tent" mode for lack of better words. Admittedly display models, equally a couple of well placed rubber bumpers would clearly alleviate the issue at minimal cost to the aesthetic...
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Actually, this is the one reason I bought the X1E, for his looks. I guess each to their own just like some people like sedans or hatchbacks, Black or white cars, etc.
Maybe its the Stockholm syndrome
, but I actually like the understated fit and finish of the Thinkpad. I've seen some reddit posts, where thinpad owners show off the battle scars as a badge of honor - that's not my cup of tea. I want to keep the laptop in pristine condition but that's just me.
I wasn't saying that Lenovo laptops are ugly (I'm a Thinkpad owner) - I was referring to the chipped/scuffed paint which in my opinion isn't acceptable. I would be unhappy if my laptops looked like that after so little use, in a client facing profession it just looks shoddy.
Like I said, I've seen really old Thinkpads which still look great, so Lenovo seems to have changed how they coat/manufacture the body shells. I've had exactly the same experience with certain handbags over the years - they change the formula on the glazing to cut costs and you end up with cracking, melting, or peeling after a handful of uses.
That is probably true that it isn’t the black per se, but it is more evident with black. Much like a black vehicle. The undercoating is typically white or at least a lighter color, so when the black surface becomes scratched or chipped, it stands out in contrast far more than it would than on a lighter colored paint.
Surface Laptop I believe is aluminum and anodized, so holds color better. But from what I understand the magnesium of the Surface Pro and Surface Book 2, is not as porous as aluminum and cannot be anodized. So instead Microsoft used that ceramic coating and layers of paint.
I am guessing like a vehicle, the ceramic coating is a lighter color and therefore any little scratch or chip is going to show in stark contrast. So perhaps black was a poor choice compared to a lighter shade such as “Space Gray.”
I have gotten scratches in Apples Space Gray finish as well and it shows as shiny silver in contrast to the more matte space gray, but it is harder to see.
Unless of course it’s larger area where the anodized color has chipped/flaked (photo from Reddit user). But even then it would maybe look worse on black?
I for one living and working across the tropics and sub tropics always try to avoid these soft touch finishes, as they invariably fail within 36-48 months due to the high humidity. They generally become sticky, if not gooey messes and very far from being anything remotely soft to the touch
Soft touch finishes, particularly black, tend not to do so well here either. At least not in car interiors. The sun tends to cook them and the get gooey, blister, peel, etc. My wife had a car that used it liberally and it all ended up looking like crap after a few years.
The problem with photos that people post of surface damage to laptops though, is that everyone who posts one always babies their machines, or so they claim. But you really never know what they might have done to cause the damage
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I have PopOS running on my second drive now. I've started tweaking and getting into some of the settings. Its been a while since I ran linux natively (I use oracle VMs for updates on PeopleSoft). I'm using dash to dock and that improves the dock quite a bit and its mostly visible now and easily accessible.
I installed virtualbox and a copy of windows, I'm seeing if that will meet my needs for remote access into my work computer. Sadly, GoToMyPC no longer provides Linux support and my company only permits GoToMyPC.
I installed virtualbox and a copy of windows, I'm seeing if that will meet my needs for remote access into my work computer. Sadly, GoToMyPC no longer provides Linux support and my company only permits GoToMyPC.
There are actually more differences:
1) 9th intel cpu
2) GTX 1650
3) Wifi 6 (802.11ax)
4) motherboard support up to 4TB SSD instead of 2TB
5) all models have now ShutterThink on camera so don't have to choose between privacy or IR Cam
6) dolby atmos speakers
7) additional options for FHD w/ HDR and 500 nits screen or 4K OLED multitouch screen
8) 4K OLED multitouch seems to be lighter and thinner than previous 4K IPS (1.7kg vs 1.8kg)
[doublepost=1557921262][/doublepost]Wondering if I should wait for gen2 or get gen1 instead. I'm not in the USA but my sis can bring it one to me end of june when she will come to europe (unfortunately gen 2 won't be available until that time
)- 1) anyone know what kind of improvements we can expect from e.g. i7-9750H over i7-8750H?
- 2) do you know if it should be possible to later update wifi m.2 card in gen 1 to support wifi 6 (802.11ax)?
- 3) does gen 1 allow manually upgrading FHD screen to 4K?
- 4) Are both m.2 slots NVMe in gen1? or one is SATA?
- 5) does gen1 have hardware raid controller or have to use soft raid?
- 6) Based on history: Is new gen 2 base models expected to be more expensive than current prices? media mentions starting price of $1500 so should be cheaper than current starting prices $1650?
- 7) Based on history:Is lenovo running some inventory sales before launching new laptop generations?