OP seems to have a visceral hatred for the product and I don't really understand why.
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Poll: When are we going to call time of death on the Vision Pro?
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Well that's a bollocks poll with a maximum option of 2 years.
There's no way with the R&D they put in it'll be written off that soon. Most version 1 products are pretty ropey/limited. There will definitely be a version 2 to give a release where they jumped some way up the learning curve and will no doubt be well under development. Then version 3 will be in development while 2 is in final stages. It'll easily be 3-4 years to see what software comes out and what hardware refinements they can pull off as to seeing it's true trajectory. So VP won't be canned for a good 5 years minimum, and by then a lot may have changed and improved. Apple TV was known as a "hobby" by Jobs for a few years as they new it wasn't mainstream. And that's still not the gaming box it could be if they tried, but still has a lot of owners now it's been about for years. I think the VP will be the same.
There's no way with the R&D they put in it'll be written off that soon. Most version 1 products are pretty ropey/limited. There will definitely be a version 2 to give a release where they jumped some way up the learning curve and will no doubt be well under development. Then version 3 will be in development while 2 is in final stages. It'll easily be 3-4 years to see what software comes out and what hardware refinements they can pull off as to seeing it's true trajectory. So VP won't be canned for a good 5 years minimum, and by then a lot may have changed and improved. Apple TV was known as a "hobby" by Jobs for a few years as they new it wasn't mainstream. And that's still not the gaming box it could be if they tried, but still has a lot of owners now it's been about for years. I think the VP will be the same.
Piplo, you nailed it!
Lame poll, especially shown by the HUGE CHASM between
The survey's choices are a riot, too. If one thinks 2 years, they must agree that is “when OP prophesied“ but anyone who thinks longer than they must be those who feel “I will never accept it even when it happens”. 🙈
That’s pretty funny and it made me chuckle. This poll would serve well as an example of how NOT to construct an item in a survey design course!
Fundamentally, as still others noted, is the problematic definition of success and failure and, thus, what is meant by the loaded phrase “time of death”.
I'm among those who think the product is quite niche, that wearers look ridiculous, and am concerned about the potentially devastating impact on teens, young adults, and the society in general. (Those impacts include health effects on the eyes and the brain, not just on social relationships and personal development.)
But I also respect Apple, know its smarts and long-term views, and can accept that many others think differently about it. I get that it appeals to many and has some potentially incredible uses, so I could not answer such a poll, especially constructed as it is!
Hope someone else will give the thread an update on the actual results. I'm hardly going to cast a vote with such a “leading the witness” type set up just to see the results!
Lame poll, especially shown by the HUGE CHASM between
- 2 years when OP prophesied
- I will never accept it even when it happens
The survey's choices are a riot, too. If one thinks 2 years, they must agree that is “when OP prophesied“ but anyone who thinks longer than they must be those who feel “I will never accept it even when it happens”. 🙈
That’s pretty funny and it made me chuckle. This poll would serve well as an example of how NOT to construct an item in a survey design course!
Fundamentally, as still others noted, is the problematic definition of success and failure and, thus, what is meant by the loaded phrase “time of death”.
I'm among those who think the product is quite niche, that wearers look ridiculous, and am concerned about the potentially devastating impact on teens, young adults, and the society in general. (Those impacts include health effects on the eyes and the brain, not just on social relationships and personal development.)
But I also respect Apple, know its smarts and long-term views, and can accept that many others think differently about it. I get that it appeals to many and has some potentially incredible uses, so I could not answer such a poll, especially constructed as it is!
Hope someone else will give the thread an update on the actual results. I'm hardly going to cast a vote with such a “leading the witness” type set up just to see the results!
I admit that I'm being a bit petty, but, yeah, Apple finds it feasible to sink tons of speculative money into going for what I think is going to be a very niche market with the Captain Rocket Headset aka AVP, but they couldn't give loyal Apple consumers a 27" iMac.
Totally agree
Waste of resources, especially if they aren’t going to lean into mainstream gaming (which needs controllers)
Well, you don't have to buy it; I'm unsure if you know that. It pretty much goes to everyone else here. Overall, posting an inflammatory title is just a ploy to get attention. Which, yes, I'm guilty of responding to as well.
Those people who have it and like it are unlikely to understand why someone who clearly does not are trying to judge when a product should be discontinued.
You’re missing a “none of the above” option.
Nailed it.
AI have incredible sources and access to quotes from insiders that amuse while informing.
Bad poll; choices are intended to present the OP's wrong-headed position.
Imagine the same absurd questions asked about the Apple Newton. The Newton's technology experiment helped lead to what Apple is today. Yet the OP would have had the world attempting to "call time of death" on the Newton. Sheesh.
Note that I am not saying that the AVP is the Newton, I am saying that the OP's entire thought process is wrong. Like evaluating AVP as if it was simply putting gold color on sneakers and selling them for $400.
I would say much stronger things but it would violate TOS.
P.S. No, I did not select a choice from the intentionally misleading poll. The OP's poll choices are a silly trick most children should be able to see through by the 6th grade or so.
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For who? I can’t see this being a viable product for the average family, teachers, doctors and nurses or even the average office worker. It’s a leisure device and a very expensive one at that and unfortunately requires the user to wear it on their face. That in itself cuts down who it appeals to, to a certain degree.
Maybe Apple will have a very niche market for this, like other products that they sell to very few but have sold for years, but I can’t see this being the future in the broader sense.
3D TV is not dead yet. It will come back, again ... and again ... and again 😂.
Apple hasn’t been a traditional computer company for long time. iMac is a tiny fraction of Apple revenues. It’s better to be relevant in future than be stuck in the past.
my expectation is that in 1-2 years every Apple podcast will have people complaining "why hasn't Apple done anything with the Apple Vision Pro to make it more useful for productivity?" just as what happened with the iPad
Hm, I’m reading that the Vision Pro is dead and that it disconnects you from people, but here I am using the device while speaking to my fiancé (who is starting his day reading articles on his Mac.
But I thought the device is dead based on all these comments!!
But I thought the device is dead based on all these comments!!
The funny thing is that everyone I know who actually owns a Meta Quest says it looks like a joke compared to the Apple Vision Pro for those who have actually used the Vision Pro. So all of this noise on the Internet seems completely fabricated. For all of the nonsense about the Vision Pro being a toy, the Quest is literally a toy, it looks like a game from 2005 HAHAHAHAHA
Toally embarrassing for the Apple haters.
They are over-invested in the failure of this product. Why would they make a fair poll
I think the sales will outperform what naysayers are thinking but I do think it will be a minority project at least initially.
Let's add a voting option:
"Nearly 1 Billion in Sales (nearly 200K units at avg price of $4K each = $800M) is a success, not a failure."
"Nearly 1 Billion in Sales (nearly 200K units at avg price of $4K each = $800M) is a success, not a failure."
I'm not a believer and have little to no interest in VR/AR to begin with, but I'd say give it a year at least to see what catches on and allow for more apps to hit the store to try stuff out, killer app or not.
The one thing to me that sticks out as a feature that was poorly planned and executed is the outward-facing display, but that doesn't make or break the product (it's just gimmicky and unintendedly creepy).
The one thing to me that sticks out as a feature that was poorly planned and executed is the outward-facing display, but that doesn't make or break the product (it's just gimmicky and unintendedly creepy).
You’re generalizing and that says everything about the criticism of this device.
Why do people pretend like they don’t realize there will be future versions of this? The first version failing To sell like iPhone doesn’t mean the vision platform will fail.
Please engage in more encompassing conversation, everyone.