Did you try the thicker seal which is more comfortable and use the head strap that came in the box.
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Some AVP owners are already feeling disappointed of their purchase
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They wouldn’t let me try the dual loop, just the single band during the demo. I’m willing to try the other strap in a month or so when I can walk in and make sure I get the right one before I leave with the Vision Pro in my hands.
The seal I started with was a 22 or 23W and they changed me to a 21W. The 21W felt worse but had better light blockage. Both were not bearable for more than ten minutes. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That odd they offered the duo loop head strap to me and I really like the fit better cause I have a huge head and was much more comfortable. Just go back and ask them. Insist on it.
Refusing to let you try the other strap seems strange. Guess they don’t want to sell it. Or it goes off script for the annoying Apple person.
It is more like an iPad than MacOS. If you are looking for a computer in the classical sense to do development, pro content/media creation or editing, or business work flows, you want a Mac, not an iPad or Vision Pro.
Vision Pro will become a good consumer product within a couple of years with iterations on hardware and software. Right now it is for developers who want to create content for it, and early adopters who like and accept the Apple environment. If you are hooked into a Windows or Android world for your other devices, this is not a good choice now and may never be.
"They don't want to sell it"????? Are you serious???? "annoying Apple person"??? Are you kidding? The Apple people that helped me with fitment were so nice and helpful. Spent over an hour with me. Made good suggestions. Tried multiple bands, etc until we found a good combination. It's so sad to read your absurd conclusions.
Just how does it disconnect me?? Please be specific instead of speaking hysterically and absurdly. If I watch a movie, I choose to be as isolated as I can to really get into the movie. I darken the surroundings. For other apps, I remove the environment and I see my surroundings. I see my cat come up to me for a pet or cuddle. Just how am I disconnected?? Please tell me so I understand the problems I have that you see but I don't.
It's not designed to be used in those situations. There will always be stupid people doing stupid things that can hurt someone else. Nothing new here. But to use that to bash the product is sick.
Tiny sliver? That's disingenuous. I've only seen a tiny sliver of people who are sold on the experience, and from what I can tell there is a lot of self-convincing going on there as well.
I mean, it's a $3,500+ product that is far, far from perfect in its current form. In my opinion it should never have been shipped and is years away from being an acceptable product at any price. So yeah, buyers remorse is going to be extreme and return rates are going to be the highest that modern Apple has ever experienced.
It's very hard to ship something with this many problems at such an extreme price point. I think Tim Cook's experience with steadily increasing prices while decreasing value led him to falsely believe he could get away with this move, despite all of the people inside Apple begging him not to.
Reddit is increasingly seeing posts that praise the device after several days of use.
It might not be perfect, and some may return it. But takes like this are too extreme.
They have 30 minute appointments and if they're booked, I imagine they want to get the demo over with so the next person can come in. I was disappointed they didn't offer to let me try the dual loop when I brought up in the first 10 minutes that the current band wasn't working for me, and I was constantly trying to move it around my head/tighten to fix it. I didn't outright ask to try it, but again if you're trying to make sure it's a solid experience you would think they would jump at it. I'm not butthurt over it, I get it just launched, they're busy, logistics matter.
It should be noted that the demographic there is likely skewed tech/gadget heavy
The full story will take a couple months to play out
Agree these takes are dumb. Anything like "it's not practical!!!" are also dumb.
There are a lot of legit issues with it, but that doesn't mean people won't find their use or some don't have those issues. It's going to be a very personal experience like every single VR headset has been.
I don’t know…
“return rates are going to be the highest that modern Apple has ever experienced.”
I am hard-pressed to think of any other Apple product that would come close to the likely return rates on this
You?
It seems pretty obvious to me. AVP is too far ahead for some people to appreciate it; one must possess imagination skills and genuine curiosity about the future. Unfortunately, not everyone has that.
I wonder how many Macs, iPhone, iPads, Apple Watch etc. are returned daily...
So I did a thing. After learning more about the VP, picked one up last night. Messed around with it for a few hours and man, it's cool.
The sizing is important. For the demo I did, it came up with 25W. It felt heavy and I had difficulty selecting some things at the fringes. My home scans came up with 23W. And I heard many are posting you should go with a 21W no matter what it says.
When I went to pick it up, told the guy I wanted to try the 21. We tried the 23 first. It immediately felt better than my demo day. Tried the 21 and got the warning the screens were too close. The Apple guy and I didn't think to re-calibrate the screens which probably would have been a good idea. So walked out with the 23. So far, not disappointed.
One thing I did before deciding to buy this was look up the pricing for the Microsoft HoloLens. I tried them out a few years ago and remember them being VERY cool with lots of use cases. But expensive. Well.....version 2 of that product is $3500 LOL. And they can go up to above $4K. So there you are.
Overall experience has remained positive. One of my fond memories from being a kid was going to the Smithsonian Air and Space museum in D.C. and watching "To Fly". You could feel it. There's an IMAX app with a couple movies you can watch free. Pulled up the space one and noticed the reflection, oddness, whatever you want to call it that appeared. It bothered me and I'm thinking it was due to having the reader inserts. More to come on that.
I have seen the discoloration of text some have posted about. Seems to be mainly on text at the edge. Given my experiences over the last 40+ years, it's not enough to warrant returning the device.
More to come.
The sizing is important. For the demo I did, it came up with 25W. It felt heavy and I had difficulty selecting some things at the fringes. My home scans came up with 23W. And I heard many are posting you should go with a 21W no matter what it says.
When I went to pick it up, told the guy I wanted to try the 21. We tried the 23 first. It immediately felt better than my demo day. Tried the 21 and got the warning the screens were too close. The Apple guy and I didn't think to re-calibrate the screens which probably would have been a good idea. So walked out with the 23. So far, not disappointed.
One thing I did before deciding to buy this was look up the pricing for the Microsoft HoloLens. I tried them out a few years ago and remember them being VERY cool with lots of use cases. But expensive. Well.....version 2 of that product is $3500 LOL. And they can go up to above $4K. So there you are.
Overall experience has remained positive. One of my fond memories from being a kid was going to the Smithsonian Air and Space museum in D.C. and watching "To Fly". You could feel it. There's an IMAX app with a couple movies you can watch free. Pulled up the space one and noticed the reflection, oddness, whatever you want to call it that appeared. It bothered me and I'm thinking it was due to having the reader inserts. More to come on that.
I have seen the discoloration of text some have posted about. Seems to be mainly on text at the edge. Given my experiences over the last 40+ years, it's not enough to warrant returning the device.
More to come.
yeah well, some people are idiots and ignored all of the evidence, suggestions, outright statements that this is an early access product.
My face got fairly mangled after 30 minutes of wearing it. I still want one though.
Exactly. If people get headaches wearing it, its because they dont “appreciate how far ahead it is”.
Quite normal, just like people's first experience with the iPhone.