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maryunani

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Note that after today's update, mDP is to be offered as the default instead of HDMI:


https://www.kickstarter.com/project...itted-usb-c-hub-for-new-macbook/posts/1265037

For me this is a good thing, as I have more need for mDP than HDMI :)

Yes, I'm loving the change to miniDP as well. But they are getting some stick in the comments section of their update. Maybe you should help out with a simple "I like it" just to make them more convinced they make the right decision.

Also, as [user]facrat[/user] stated the KADi is a bit of a scattered mess right now, they close their funding in a week yet still doesn't have a detailed timeline. Their lack of proof of prototyping doesn't fill me with confidence either. I'd not cancel just yet since I have early bird privileges currently, but if by funding date there's no positive news I'd cancel for sure.
 

jbromer

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A kickstarter project delay is hardly surprising. Haven't seen any from Anker, or any, that supports display (and by display I really meant VGA), so my hard-earned cash are still up for grabs.



Again, no display, I will pass. The pre-order system is kind of suspect as well. It might be wise to look elsewhere.

It's not the delay in and of itself, it is the delay because of a decision to redesign late in the game. Just doesn't inspire me with confidence.

I don't really need any display support, just a USB-C power passthrough and a couple USB 3 ports. Anker has 1 coming up that will have those + an ethernet adaptor on the end (I still go to 1 place that I need ethernet). I just backed Branch, they seem a little more solid - they made a change but are committed to their delivery date. If they get funded and seem on target, I'll go with that, and just keep using my current USB->ethernet adaptor. If not, I'll get the Anker when it comes out...
 

maryunani

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It's not the delay in and of itself, it is the delay because of a decision to redesign late in the game. Just doesn't inspire me with confidence.

I don't really need any display support, just a USB-C power passthrough and a couple USB 3 ports. Anker has 1 coming up that will have those + an ethernet adaptor on the end (I still go to 1 place that I need ethernet). I just backed Branch, they seem a little more solid - they made a change but are committed to their delivery date. If they get funded and seem on target, I'll go with that, and just keep using my current USB->ethernet adaptor. If not, I'll get the Anker when it comes out...
Different strokes for different folks. As my MacBook will be used to present a lot of stuff, I'm going to need that display output.
 

zhenya

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Seems that there are a lot of different posts covering this topic. I wonder if for the time being, it might be best to have a sticky where we can aggregate discussion on this topic? People could add various devices they've found for sale or in prototype stages, ask for recommendations, etc.

I'll start.

We of course have the Kickstarter options - not my cup of tea to buy like this, but the ideas look good.

The Hub+
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nonda/get-your-macbook-ports-back
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Infinite USB:
https://www.kickstarter.com/project...-one-usb-port-unlimited-devices/posts/1187812
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HydraDock
https://www.kickstarter.com/project...port-usb-c-dock-for-apple-macbook/description
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Kadi Port
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/714748206/the-kadi-port-a-macbook-essential
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Plugable Ultimate USB-C
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/plugable/plugable-ultimate-usb-c-universal-docking-station
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A comparison by Plugable:
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Branch
https://www.kickstarter.com/project...-fitted-usb-c-hub-for-new-macbook/description
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Stuff we can buy today or should be in production shortly - non kickstarter

Anker Ethernet/USB-A:
http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Etherne...?ie=UTF8&qid=1434720624&sr=8-4&keywords=usb-c


I'll add more later - also, please make suggestions, feel free to discuss the products here. If the mods can change the title, this could be made into the sticky thread itself if they see fit.
 
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zhenya

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For me, the Hub+ seems like the most complete option at the moment, that isn't a full-fledged dock, but I don't have any faith that the company will actually deliver the project. I'd like to see more companies using displayport rather than HDMI, and for someone to create something as minimal as possible that has a full array of ports including displayport and even Ethernet for mobile workers to carry on the road.
 

zhenya

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Could we please move this back to the Macbook forum as this topic is only relevant to that product at the moment. I suspect it will just get lost over here.
 

zhenya

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I think merging is a good idea if you are game. I have been having to chase down and follow all of those independently.

I agree that in the long run a thread like this would belong here, but I'm afraid in the short run the vast majority of users will never find it over here. I would never have thought to look in this forum, and many of the posts you list above exist in the Macbook forum. Moving it will only really work if you continue to move new usb-c posts over here and into this thread as appropriate.

Thanks!
 

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I think merging is a good idea if you are game. I have been having to chase down and follow all of those independently.

I agree that in the long run a thread like this would belong here, but I'm afraid in the short run the vast majority of users will never find it over here. I would never have thought to look in this forum, and many of the posts you list above exist in the Macbook forum. Moving it will only really work if you continue to move new usb-c posts over here and into this thread as appropriate.

Thanks!

I will post a sticky thread in the MacBook forum asking members to post their USB-C threads in this forum and include a link to this thread.
 

Ethos Evoss

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@zhenya
You didn't start I already posted that hub+ what u pasted as first ..
and it looks most compact and most connections it has ..

Hey guys I rather prefer HDMi to micro HDMI as it is just one cable from my tablet going straight to my TV ..
As TV supports just HDMI only .. Don't understand some ppl why they have problems with HDMI ..?
It is simplest and most universal video/audio connector same like USB is universal and simplest..

MicroStandHDMI16.jpg
 
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zhenya

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This thread came out of the desire to see a one-stop place to discuss the rapidly developing usb-c peripheral market. Never intended to imply that what I was putting together was something novel - just trying to get a sticky thread off the ground. :)

HDMI is common in the AV and TV world, but in the computer world, displayport definitely rules. Displayport has the advantage of more bandwidth, a commonly available small port in mini-displayport, and simple conversion to HDMI. Converting HDMI to displayport is much more difficult. That's why I'd like to see more devices with displayport. It's much more universal.
 

facrat

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Dear lord this super sticky thread is a terrible idea. Now all those threads of discussion about different products have been mangled together in a forum that nobody visits. Should have been left in the Macbook forum until USB-C actually makes an appearance on another device.

Searching through pages and pages to find specific products and user reviews of them is no fun at all. Since of course *all* pluggable accessories for the 12-inch Macbook are USB-C only by definition ....
 

maryunani

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@zhenya
You didn't start I already posted that hub+ what u pasted as first ..
and it looks most compact and most connections it has ..

Hey guys I rather prefer HDMi to micro HDMI as it is just one cable from my tablet going straight to my TV ..
As TV supports just HDMI only .. Don't understand some ppl why they have problems with HDMI ..?
It is simplest and most universal video/audio connector same like USB is universal and simplest..

MicroStandHDMI16.jpg

Anyone?

Ugh, ok, I'll bite.

1. This is a USB-C thread.
2. Not all displays use HDMI, some use thunderbolt or VGA.
 

Ethos Evoss

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This thread came out of the desire to see a one-stop place to discuss the rapidly developing usb-c peripheral market. Never intended to imply that what I was putting together was something novel - just trying to get a sticky thread off the ground. :)

HDMI is common in the AV and TV world, but in the computer world, displayport definitely rules. Displayport has the advantage of more bandwidth, a commonly available small port in mini-displayport, and simple conversion to HDMI. Converting HDMI to displayport is much more difficult. That's why I'd like to see more devices with displayport. It's much more universal.
But not any more.. today u have great hdmi 2.0 too supports 4k at 60fps and + brilliant 27''-30'' monitor and u set :) you can connect up to 3 monitors if u like have it ultra wide ;)
look pics below:
 
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Wallabe

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That acer monitor design looks stupid. The left side will bounce from the slightest table movement. They're trying to be cute with the design but it looks unbalanced and will have an annoying bounce when you are working at the table.
 

maryunani

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1.OK that was last hdmi post (above)
2.VGA ?? ar u joking ?? no chance ancient vga in 2015 pleease ..

I am not the one responsible for building display infrastructures in offices, schools, and campuses, 95% of which still use VGA (at least where I live). You obviously want sharp quality, which is fine. But for others it's about compatibility with the world, even when they do have a lot of catching up to do.

And no, I'm not going to carry around 4K HDMI adapters and use the "VGA?! Are you joking?! No chance if ancient VGA in 2015" line to my client/teacher/professor as to an explanation why I'm not presenting what I worked on.
 

Ethos Evoss

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That acer monitor design looks stupid. The left side will bounce from the slightest table movement. They're trying to be cute with the design but it looks unbalanced and will have an annoying bounce when you are working at the table.
why would you move with table? no it won't wobble it's firm
 

zhenya

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But not any more.. today u have great hdmi 2.0 too supports 4k at 60fps and + brilliant 27''-30'' monitor and u set :) you can connect up to 3 monitors if u like have it ultra wide ;)
look pics below:

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Even still, HDMI 2.0 lags far behind the latest displayport standards, and the conversion issue remains. Either way, usb-c should soon be ubiquitous enough that we will have plenty of both kinds to choose from. :)
 

Ethos Evoss

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Even still, HDMI 2.0 lags far behind the latest displayport standards, and the conversion issue remains. Either way, usb-c should soon be ubiquitous enough that we will have plenty of both kinds to choose from. :)
Soon or later the ''USB'' will be so universal, that (maybe USB 4.0) we will be using only that cable ..
All the rest of cables will be discontinued, scrapped .. usb will be for video ,audio , internet, just one simple cable.. :)
 

Wallabe

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why would you move with table? no it won't wobble it's firm

Tables get bumped as part of their normal operation. The design will wobble. It's annoying. Cute, but impractical. A centered stand will be more balanced and reduce wobbling. Sony had a design like that once on their Sony Vaio monitors.
 

shenan1982

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Thanks for info!

All coming soon.... and no way to get details ... at least it's not a kickstarter project :)


IIIHHHHHH

http://www.ianker.com/product/A8303041

Anker USB-C to 3-Port USB 3.0 Hub with Ethernet Adapter - 30$!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I found the graal :)

The problem (and it's a big one) is that none of these support charging. That's all fine and good that the ports (USBx3 + Ethernet) are there, but when my battery runs low and I have to sacrifice ethernet connectivity to re-charge my laptop, and have no connection while re-charging, that's an issue, a BIG issue.
 

shenan1982

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Not sure if anybody has seen these, but there are two Kickstarter projects that are offering USB-C to Lightning cables. They are only capable of charging though, so it doesn't eliminate the need for the adapter.

https://www.kickstarter.com/project...ler-double-your-charging-speed?ref=nav_search

https://www.kickstarter.com/project...allest-keyring-cable-on-steroi?ref=nav_search

Monoprice also has a new USB-C to USB adapter that looks interesting, it gets rid of the cable: http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=103&cp_id=10330&cs_id=1033001&p_id=13507&seq=1&format=2

I'm so tired of kickstarter. While I fully support the concept of kickstarter, I am overly frustrated by the number of fully funded projects that never see the light of day. The reason why the traditional model of raising capital works so well is in order to launch a product, someone needs a basic understanding of the business model... and absent of that, projects stall and never see the light of day. People get excited and spend money on something they'll never get.
 

ctyrider

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The problem (and it's a big one) is that none of these support charging. That's all fine and good that the ports (USBx3 + Ethernet) are there, but when my battery runs low and I have to sacrifice ethernet connectivity to re-charge my laptop, and have no connection while re-charging, that's an issue, a BIG issue.

Agreed.. These Anker adapters are nice form factor, but sort of useless to me without passthrough charging. I hope someone makes a small portable dock with a few USB ports, Ethernet, and charging support.

Hub+ is very close, but it's lacking built-in Ethernet port. If there are no other options in a few months, I may end up getting Hub+ paired up with a small Apple USB2-to-Ethernet adapter. Not ideal though, as I'd really like an all-in-one solution.
 
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