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iPhone 13 Pro Max The iPhone is not worth the price (anymore)
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A comparison to those of us who are looking to buy things to make us happy. I was able to get more emotions from a switch than my yearly iphone upgrades. Just throwing it out there if it helps anyone else.
iPhones (and Android) devices are the least expensive products vs. how much are they used and how much value they bring that you can buy on the planet Earth right now. Let's say you buy most expensive and top of the line iPhone. It's $1,600 + tax in US. You can keep it for at least 3 years (possibly 6-7 but let's say 3). So, per mont including tax you are looking at around $50. You can sell it for half that after 3 years so basically for around $25 (and if you don't buy the latest model you are probably spending around $10-15/month) per month you get something that you use all day long for multiple things and functions. Boarding passes, navigation, calls, texts, emails, pay bills, shopping, ordering food, keeping track of your kids, employees, etc., video camera, still camera, online banking, use it for work, and on and on and on. Compare this to one meal at even the cheapest restaurant and it more than breaks even. While people smoke, gamble, go wild at restaurants, bars getting drunk and spend hundreds or thousands of $. How much is one pack of cigarettes? Maybe $10. how much is a bottle of wine at restaurant? $50 or $100 or even multiple hundreds of dollars that you finish at dinner and then you have nothing. And people still complain how iPhones are expensive???
Do yourself a favor and do a full OS restore using a computer (assuming you update OTA) then restore from your iCloud backup. I bet money your device will run faster, esp. once everything reindexes.
Got my 14 Pro replaced the other day (it was beat to shreds) and I’ve been amazed how much faster it is.
In your case my 13 Pro has been in my GFs possession for 2 years now and is blazing fast. Pre replacement it was faster than my 14 Pro. The A15 is still a really fast chip.
Also if you have less than 20-30GB free at any time your device is probably going to lag. Pretty much guaranteed.
I’m not here to sell you snake oil, I’m really trying to help.
EDIT: as a last ditch effort; signing out of iCloud then resetting all settings generally fixes a lot of problems and speed issues as well.
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iPhones are very expensive, but I still enjoy using iPhones more than Android. So as long as I can afford iPhones I'll buy them.
This whole thread could be ended with this reply from the beginning.
I don't buy devices with a lot of capacity, I play with the cloud, the most I have are 128 Gb + the cloud
Yes it's gotten way too expensive. I bought an XR new in 2018, still using it.
But just cracked the sceen and battery is down to 80%, so looking at maybe buying a used 13 mini. A new iPhone is just too much money nowadays.
Also I don't understand what people are using so much storage for? Apps I don't use get uninstalled, videos get archived on private YouTube channel.
Never managed to fill 64gb even.
But just cracked the sceen and battery is down to 80%, so looking at maybe buying a used 13 mini. A new iPhone is just too much money nowadays.
Also I don't understand what people are using so much storage for? Apps I don't use get uninstalled, videos get archived on private YouTube channel.
Never managed to fill 64gb even.
If you only have 40 gigs left out of 512 that is gonna severely affect the performance of your phone. I would personally make more storage available and possibly look at a new battery.
I have a 13 pro max with 100gig free space, new battery and the latest update installed. Zero lag
I have a 13 pro max with 100gig free space, new battery and the latest update installed. Zero lag
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I can see what you mean. I recently purchased a near mint 13 Pro Max with 256 GB for a great price and at the battery health was also 88%. Thought about getting either a 14 or 15 PM, but really prefer to still have the SIM tray for international travel and have a bunch of lightning cables, so USB-C isn't a motivating factor yet.
I upgraded from an 11 Pro Max that with a cracked back from an accidental drop and sold it for recycling while it was still worth something. Perhaps the newness hasn't worn off yet, but I'm finding the 13 PM to be a nice upgrade, especially with the 120 hz refresh rate, 5G and more RAM. I also just bought a new battery and have noticed that it performs more smoothly than before. There isn't any lag.
I was initially hesitant about purchasing a two year old phone, but it's been a nice upgrade and that I didn't have to purchase the latest model in order to have the experience of a nice upgrade.
I do wonder if 6GB RAM vs 4GB RAM would perhaps allow higher tolerance to lag. It is happening but only started being quite obvious once I went past iOS 17 on my 13 Mini (4GB) with the KB mainly.
What lag on 13 PM? Mine works great with latest update. By the time I upgrade it will most likely iPhone 18 or iPhone 19. I can try to convince myself to get a new one for FOMO or use a newer model which may seem snappy. I saw huge jump from iPhone 7+ to 13 PM, but it wasn’t like iPhone 7 was bad before I upgraded.
My 14PM 256gb is sitting on ios 17.1 and also has this lagging kb issue, so i think you are fine from RAM standpoint.
Before that it would kick me out of photos on earlier ios 17.
“It's always funny how "amazingly fast" the new model feels when you buy it”.
I mean, you can maintain that. Never update and you won’t lose performance or battery life.
It doesn’t have to be like that. I actually kind of agree with the premise: when degradation is significant, then users can feel as if their purchase was too expensive for what you get.
The tool to prevent this is there. It’s on the user to choose.
I mean, you can maintain that. Never update and you won’t lose performance or battery life.
It doesn’t have to be like that. I actually kind of agree with the premise: when degradation is significant, then users can feel as if their purchase was too expensive for what you get.
The tool to prevent this is there. It’s on the user to choose.
I don't know. Obviously it's not 3 years yet, but I'm about to get a new battery put in my launch day iPhone 13 Pro. Holding it for a few more years. This thing still feels new to me.
I can't see or feel any lag on my 13 Pro, and the battery (86%) still lasts all day, and then some. Played with a coworkers 15 Pro and couldn't tell any difference moving around, opening apps or with keyboard/typing.
I don't play any games on my phone, so can't comment on that.
183gb free out of 256gb.
Money isn't concern, but upgrading yearly or even every two is wasteful at this point. There is little to no point.
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I used to upgrade the phone almost every year until the 6s came out. Since then it's been once in several years. I got the 13 mini after the 8 and skipped everything in between. Considering how long these phones last without compromising the performance, the cost is worth it. When it comes to the Pro line, however, it only makes sense to buy those for their features to use for work, for example content creation without having to use a standalone camera. Otherwise buying the Pro line is a waste of money and a greater drop in value. As for the software, I noticed that it's best to update max 2 versions and then stop.
Wow I have the exact same set up— 11 Pro Max & 6s Plus on same iOS as described. Doppelgänger is that you?
After the battery replace last year in my Xs max, it felt like a brand new out of the box experience.
Fast forward to December of 2023 where I traded in my beloved max for a 15 pm. It was night and day.
For example, on my max macrumors loaded in two blinks of an eye. On the 15pm it loads before the blink finishes.
Of course it’s 5 years of improvements and not that the max was a slouch. But it took me a few days to get used to almost everything popping instantly.
As for the op unless there was an issue on ops’ 13pm, iOS 17.2.1 on my max had stellar performance and as new battery life (which to be honest wasn’t great to begin with)
Yeah, typically the first major update is okay. I’d say the second one may introduce a slight battery life impact nowadays, but nothing too unusable.
Anything after that and you’re playing with fire that cannot be put out.
I suppose you call my ex-XS Max laggy compared to my 15PM, however the hardware within the two phones are not on the same planet.
I suppose "laggy" has different meanings for different people. My xs max didn't have random stutters, apps opened up reasonably fast, battery life was commensurate with how I remember it originally in 2018 (after a new battery). That said, all of this is anecdotal - at least on the Max you and I have different experiences.
My sons iphone 12, which I used the other day on 17.2.1 does not have lag or stutters. I cannot fathom how the 13 has lag or stutters, unless it is something unique to the iphone 13.