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neuropsychguy

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And many illegitimate ones, also.

This is something that can be abused by controlling partners, or those with tendencies to behave like stalkers, or, intrusive authorities in the event of unfortunate court hearings when such evidence may be demanded as part of the court proceedings.
So can any technology or just about anything. Access to food, sanitation, electricity, social contact, etc. can be abused by controlling partners. Anything electronic could be abused. What might be helpful for one person could be abusive and intrusive for another. Because things can be abused doesn't mean they should not be used.

There is nothing automatic about the Apple Watch tracking sexual activity.
 

TechnoMonk

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Some of us have been tracking our cycles in our memory, - yes, memory - and with the aid of a pen and a paper diary, for decades, and centuries, prior to the invention of this device.

This is not new, merely a different way to accomplish something that many

Indeed.

And many illegitimate ones, also.

This is something that can be abused by controlling partners, or those with tendencies to behave like stalkers, or, intrusive authorities in the event of unfortunate court hearings when such evidence may be demanded as part of the court proceedings.
It’s easy to access pen and paper diary by a stalker or an authority. By that logic, pretty much everything used today is bad, remember people have lived for thousands of years with out using any modern technology.

If you are scared, don’t use it. No one is forcing, but assuming that Paper and Diary is more secure from a motivated stalker is funny.
 

Scepticalscribe

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Well, this is all possibly moot, as I neither have (nor plan to acquire) an Apple Watch, and this thread merely serves to confirm me in this (marked) preference.

My own wrist watch is a lovely old Omega Deville, one that I have had for fifteen years, and one which I wear daily.

The thread title - pure click bait - invited investigation, against my better judgment.

A poor decision on my part, admittedly.

Exit, stage left.......
 

ShadowJade

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What a horrific, intrusive, and utterly appalling idea.

Another excellent reason never to wish to purchase an Apple Watch.

Personally, I prefer that some parts of one's life remain very much in the private sphere and personal space, untracked by others, or, for that matter, intrusive timepieces.
It is manually entered. Some doctors, particularly fertility specialists, ask you to track this. Ironically, as the main admin of a 450,000 member iPhone forum on FB, I can robustly say that Watch is by far my favorite  invention. Sleep tracking (I use AutoSleep app) is phenominal. All the things in my home that I can do/control with it are amazing.
 

antiprotest

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It uses various sensors to detect different types of activities and record the data. For example, if it detects rapid piston-like motion, it would record it as the solo type of activity. If you correlate the data with other data like heart rate, it might offer useful health insights.
 

seggy

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What a horrific, intrusive, and utterly appalling idea.

Another excellent reason never to wish to purchase an Apple Watch.

Personally, I prefer that some parts of one's life remain very much in the private sphere and personal space, untracked by others, or, for that matter, intrusive timepieces.

But, but, what about the wannabe silicon valley techbro types who have to gamify everything on an online scoreboard?

Think of those poor dudes
 

Rainshadow

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Some of us have been tracking our cycles in our memory, - yes, memory - and with the aid of a pen and a paper diary, for decades, and centuries, prior to the invention of this device.

This is not new, merely a different way to accomplish something that many

Indeed.

And many illegitimate ones, also.

This is something that can be abused by controlling partners, or those with tendencies to behave like stalkers, or, intrusive authorities in the event of unfortunate court hearings when such evidence may be demanded as part of the court proceedings.
You’re kidding, right? Please, describe how this is the fault of an Apple Watch? If all you need to do is write it down, and according to you, people have been doing that for centuries, then how can this possibly be used to or abused in court proceedings?

Give me a break.
 

AlastorKatriona

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The very fact that such information - relating to such a personal and private matter - can be input by the user is what troubles me.

This strikes me as the sort of thing that can be abused (potentially, or actually) by controlling partners, or intrusive authorities.

No, thank you.
You're just backtracking now as you found out that you were ridiculously wrong about its capabilities, and instead of admitting it you need to invent some new outrage about the legitimate medical reasons why Apple Watch has things like cycle tracking and sexual activity. My wife has been going through a very difficult time lately and recording her data closely is what helps inform her doctor. The value of it cannot be overstated.
 
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AgeOfSpiracles

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Well, this is all possibly moot, as I neither have (nor plan to acquire) an Apple Watch, and this thread merely serves to confirm me in this (marked) preference.

My own wrist watch is a lovely old Omega Deville, one that I have had for fifteen years, and one which I wear daily.

The thread title - pure click bait - invited investigation, against my better judgment.

A poor decision on my part, admittedly.

Exit, stage left.......
You're really not getting it. It's part of Apple Health, nothing to do with the watch. If you have an iPhone, then you have this tracking available to you.
 
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ninecows

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The Apple Watch 100% does not auto-detect anything of this sort. This is not part of the Apple Watch at all, actually. It's in the iPhone's Health app, and it's there because some people want to track this information if they're trying to get pregnant and such.
How can you know?

One thing is that it does not register it to the app, but it will for certain detect the change in pulse and odd rhythmic changes in movement. And if you have allowed it to send analytics to Apple I am pretty sure a decent data scientist will be able to make a model that can tell you if you’re doing it.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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I can’t say I’ve ever thought ‘I’d better log that in Apple health’ after enjoying sex with my wife lol.

‘Hang on darling, we are going to have to break off that cuddle a second while I grab my iPhone.

Seriously though that feature has been available for five or more years despite never having used it myself.
 
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xraydoc

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How can you know?

One thing is that it does not register it to the app, but it will for certain detect the change in pulse and odd rhythmic changes in movement. And if you have allowed it to send analytics to Apple I am pretty sure a decent data scientist will be able to make a model that can tell you if you’re doing it.
Do you think Apple is really interested in this? They could probably tell if I pick my nose, too, by looking at vertical angulation and twisting motions. But do you think they are?

And if they are, so what? Everyone has sex.
 

Catasstrophy

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How can you know?

One thing is that it does not register it to the app, but it will for certain detect the change in pulse and odd rhythmic changes in movement. And if you have allowed it to send analytics to Apple I am pretty sure a decent data scientist will be able to make a model that can tell you if you’re doing it.
Nothing you just said changes the fact that none of this hardware automatically detects and records sexual activity in your health app. Unless your definition of automatically detecting a particular activity is "recording heart rate and motion information," in which case, i guess the watch is "automatically detecting" literally everything.
 

Populus

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It’s great that ARN pinned this thread on the front page :p

I’ve always wondered if WatchOS or any Apple Watch app has the ability to evaluate the performance of a “solo player” session, if you know what I mean. Of course, wearing the watch on the appropriate hand, and specifying the biological gender.
 
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ninecows

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Nothing you just said changes the fact that none of this hardware automatically detects and records sexual activity in your health app. Unless your definition of automatically detecting a particular activity is "recording heart rate and motion information," in which case, i guess the watch is "automatically detecting" literally everything.
My point is just that even though the watch doesn’t ask you: “register sex?” you cannot rule out that some development department in Apple is experimenting with such a feature based on your data.

It was just the “100% certainly not” claim I reacted to.
 

ninecows

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It’s great that ARN pinned this thread on the front page :p

I’ve always wondered if WatchOS or any Apple Watch app has the ability to evaluate the performance of a “solo player” session, if you know what I mean. Of course, wearing the watch on the appropriate hand, and specifying the biological gender.
Oh wait! Is that what the solo band is for? Make sense… 😂😂😂
 

ninecows

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Do you think Apple is really interested in this? They could probably tell if I pick my nose, too, by looking at vertical angulation and twisting motions. But do you think they are?

And if they are, so what? Everyone has sex.
That would be a great feature. Do you want to stop such habit? It would remind when you do it unconsciously. Same with smoking.

And register sex by just double pinching 🤏 instead of pausing cuddling. And wake you up if you fall asleep too early during cuddle time. Lots of use cases 😊
 

LeeW

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If I see that registering any sexual activity, I will be phoning the police to investigate who did it.
 
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