All Devices Updated Apple Maps

[gwhizkids]

Well..this was an unexpected surprise this morning. You’re welcome, people of San Francisco. . Less than 4 days to correct...and that included a weekend! I’m very happy about this.

...and tried driving directions as well as walking directions. Fixed!

That’s great! Excited to see they’re being so responsive.

I’ve reported my street ( the driveway I share with my neighbor) as being mis-displayed in Maps for several years. Not a peep.

That’s the difference between owning the data and licensing someone else’s data.

 

[MozMan68]

That’s great! Excited to see they’re being so responsive.

I’ve reported my street ( the driveway I share with my neighbor) as being mis-displayed in Maps for several years. Not a peep.

That’s the difference between owning the data and licensing someone else’s data.

And honestly, knowing they are still pulling POI data from Yelp, I was surprised it was changed so quickly. But I guess there is a difference from using them to populate the data versus correcting after the fact. I hope this is a sign of things to come.

 

[Julien]

Another week and still not a sq inch more of new data. Not much of a roll out since there has been no roll in months.

 

[MozMan68]

Another week and still not a sq inch more of new data. Not much of a roll out since there has been no roll in months.

Just remember, it was supposed to be Bay Area only until launch and THEN Northern CA...they are way ahead of schedule.

 

[Julien]

Just remember, it was supposed to be Bay Area only until launch and THEN Northern CA...they are way ahead of schedule.

Don't remember the part about "until launch".

 

[MozMan68]

Don't remember the part about "until launch".

Yep...Bay Area during beta and starting with Northern CA in the fall...I know I’m not quoting exactly, but it left the impression it wouldn’t be until official ios12 launch.

Edit: from the original article, “... has published an in-depth overview of the changes coming to Apple Maps, which will be available in the San Francisco area starting with the next iOS 12 beta next week, cover all of Northern California by this fall, and roll out across the rest of the United States over the next year.”

SF did indeed come with the next beta, but NoCal was literally a week later at the next beta after that.

 

[MozMan68]

Looks like no changes with the latest betas...at least none that I can see checking the usual areas I've been looking at. Just dying to see where and when they roll out additional areas. I have a weird feeling it will be pretty expansive at launch versus the "slow" rollout they hinted at in the article.

 

[gwhizkids]

Looks like no changes with the latest betas...at least none that I can see checking the usual areas I've been looking at. Just dying to see where and when they roll out additional areas. I have a weird feeling it will be pretty expansive at launch versus the "slow" rollout they hinted at in the article.

Agree. Suspect we’ll find out on 9/19.

 

[Aussi3]

The whole of California is in new map style now isn’t it?

 

[MozMan68]

The whole of California is in new map style now isn’t it?

Nope...same “Northern half” for the past month...

 

[Aussi3]

Nope...same “Northern half” for the past month...

Ohk

 

[Jarrodbcall]

Ohk

That first half rolled out faster than expected, so hopefully that bodes well for us in the mountain west. If the updates are as good as they advertise maybe my boyfriend and I can finally stop disagreeing about my use of Apple maps (and then he will realize I am actually just a terrible navigator and no app can fix that, haha).

 

[MozMan68]

That first half rolled out faster than expected, so hopefully that bodes well for us in the mountain west. If the updates are as good as they advertise maybe my boyfriend and I can finally stop disagreeing about my use of Apple maps (and then he will realize I am actually just a terrible navigator and no app can fix that, haha).

Hah..I seem to switch to Apple Maps during every beta and then go back to Waze after general release.

Not this year. Apple Maps has been really good for me all summer long with only a few hiccups. And I think it may just be a regular update, but there have been so many corrections and better navigating in my home area over the past two weeks. Having experienced the new data set while driving in the Bay Area a few weeks ago, I can't wait for the updates to hit my home area.

 

[Ray2]

Unless Apple come up with a mapping miracle worldwide within a month, people in Europe where Apple Maps so far had a bad reputation would just jump on one of Google offerings, which could solidify their dominant position outside of the US even more?

Follow this thread and one see's very little discussion about Maps value as a Nav app. It's looking at satellite imagery or new buildings going up. Virtually zero discussion about location accuracy or routing accuracy. In Europe it varies by country. So far this year (past 3 months) I've done Sweden, France, Switzerland (where I have a home) and Italy. Rating it from 0 to 5 would be as follows:

Sweden: 2
France: 4
Switzerland: 4
Italy: 0

I also have a home in south Florida. Too many times I'm left at the end of a dead end street. I'd rate it as a 2.

In all cases Google Maps would rate a 5 other than Italy where it's right only 70% of the time (a 3 rating). Yes, Google will solidify its dominant position. To the extent I don't understand why Apple even bothers anymore. Nice visuals, easy to read but borderline useless for navigation or POI.

 

[MozMan68]

Follow this thread and one see's very little discussion about Maps value as a Nav app. It's looking at satellite imagery or new buildings going up. Virtually zero discussion about location accuracy or routing accuracy. In Europe it varies by country. So far this year (past 3 months) I've done Sweden, France, Switzerland (where I have a home) and Italy. Rating it from 0 to 5 would be as follows:

Sweden: 2
France: 4
Switzerland: 4
Italy: 0

I also have a home in south Florida. Too many times I'm left at the end of a dead end street. I'd rate it as a 2.

In all cases Google Maps would rate a 5 other than Italy where it's right only 70% of the time (a 3 rating). Yes, Google will solidify its dominant position. To the extent I don't understand why Apple even bothers anymore. Nice visuals, easy to read but borderline useless for navigation or POI.

Actually, I think I’ve stated multiple times in here (maybe another Maps thread?) about accuracy and routing.

And one of our posters in here, he’s commented in nauseating detail about the routing software and how accurate it is.

So, I’ll repeat again, outside of one weird “get off the highway and get right back on” incident (which I attribute to a last minute traffic update) I have had little to no issues with guidance. I’ve had to be nit picky about building entrances and such because the routing itself has always taken me right where I need to go.

The visual aspects are just a bonus IMHO. And yes, I personally prefer the UI much more than any other mapping software I’ve tried. But that’s me.

Internationally, I only used in Sweden without issue, but ended up using Google simply so I could download the region to my phone to save on data (tried HERE as well). Nice feature that Apple could use, even if it only provides basic navigation.

EDIT: And I guess I should mention that I travel nearly every single week all over the US...no issues all summer long using Maps exclusively. Understand completely that Maps is lacking in many countries, but looks like Apple is focusing on the USA (duh) and Great Britain to start.

 

[one more]

In Europe it varies by country. So far this year (past 3 months) I've done Sweden, France, Switzerland (where I have a home) and Italy. Rating it from 0 to 5 would be as follows:

Sweden: 2
France: 4
Switzerland: 4
Italy: 0

I should consider myself lucky driving mostly around France and Switzerland then.

From my observations regularly driving along the same long route, Apple are still actively adjusting their routing hints, so I am eager to see what comes out of it once the public iOS 12 version is released.

 

[slcpunk]

I’ll stick with google maps as always

 

[wesley96]

One place Google Maps fails miserably as a navigation software is South Korea. No routing information is provided at all due to the debacle with the Korean government regarding the export of map data.

Meanwhile, Apple was happy to comply and the Apple Maps’ turn-by-turn navigation works quite well. It’s missing some POIs and lack lane guidance & speed limit info, but it’s usable. I’d rate it as 3 out of 5, where the local map apps (Kakao and Naver) would get 5. I hope Apple keeps up with the improvements.

 

[campyguy]

FYI, I noticed that the updated mapping in CA and NV went live to both iOS 11 and High Sierra late this morning.

To those still looking for an alternative for navigation options consider INRIX, pretty much my main go-to for travel navigation. Google Maps base for viewing, OpenStreet maps for navigation (there's a reason for this, not using Google's servers because...), they use their own machine learning engine for navigation. A significant reason for my using INRIX is their use of a vast array of sensors in roadways, connected vehicles (even including wipers), and weather stations - my traffic updates include reroutes due to traffic and foul weather, and they also include the means to provide input for accidents, weather, police... No ads, regular updates, worldwide availability, much faster incident refresh (every 60 seconds), an iPad version too (it's on my LTE Air 2, which I do use for navigation...). My 2¢.

 

[ButteryScrollin]

Seems like there hasn’t been any maps updates in months. Still not progressed past Delano.

 

[campyguy]

Seems like there hasn’t been any maps updates in months.

To a person with an untrained eye or no experience along the So OR/NoCal border, yes. To me, there are recent updates.

From my own experience, going back around 17 years, I am seeing new aerial data and highway data and POI data. More specifically, zoom in on the CA/OR border - in "Satellite" mode, in a swath bleeding up to 200-500 yards/meters into Oregon, Apple has incorporated new, hi-res aerials - to wit, shadows (trees, shrubs, buildings) are at a different angle and newer elements are shown at higher resolution. Older aerials are pretty much the same as the archived imagery I've personally seen (in Mr. SID format) while the newer imagery reflects how things "look" now. I started working in Southern OR along its border with CA in 2002 (mods to a realignment of Hwy. 141), and am finally seeing updated imagery showing up in AM. I still have contract work along the OR/CA border. Also seeing updated - nee, new - POI data along OR's common border with CA.

 

[gwhizkids]

How I’ll know they’ve updated in my area:

When they move my road where it belongs (instead of being my neighbor’s driveway):

(removed map because Apple's markup black markers aren't quite good enough!)

 

[Julien]

How I’ll know they’ve updated in my area:

When they move my road where it belongs (instead of being my neighbor’s driveway):

Thread is about Apple's plan to switch over to using its own mapping data (New Apple Maps) and there have been NO updates to the initial release so far. Updates like yours (unless you live in northern California) are just changes to the 3ed party data Apple licenses and done dynamically all the time.

 

[Aussi3]

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Thread is about Apple's plan to switch over to using its own mapping data (New Apple Maps) and there have been NO updates to the initial release so far. Updates like yours (unless you live in northern California) are just changes to the 3ed party data Apple licenses and done dynamically all the time.

I’ll be replying to this in 2030 when Australia gets new Apple maps it seems we are a long way off since there’s no apple cars here yet and Australia is so big lol

 

[gwhizkids]

Thread is about Apple's plan to switch over to using its own mapping data (New Apple Maps) and there have been NO updates to the initial release so far. Updates like yours (unless you live in northern California) are just changes to the 3ed party data Apple licenses and done dynamically all the time.

I didn’t say they updated mine (CT). I said I’d know when they did by my street appearing in the correct location (not 75’ to the west as it shows on the current maps depiction).