Can you imagine the postal service opening your letters, just on the off chance you may be engaging in illegal activity? No I didn't think so š If we want to protect our children we should be taking them off line, not diluting our privacy!
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WhatsApp Says It Would Leave UK If Government Tried to Weaken Encryption
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This is not a fair analogy, IMO. One is about protecting peopleās privacy, whereas replacing Appleās old proprietary connector (Lightening) with a more universally adopted and more technically advanced one (USB-C) will actually benefit the customers, wonāt it?
Can you imagine the postal service opening your letters, just on the off chance you may be engaging in illegal activity? No I didn't think so š If we want to protect our children we should be taking them off line, not diluting our privacy!
That's the only good thing this government has done in the last 2 years, I suspect it's just posturing, however if they make it stick, then they will win the next election š
Yes, it will.
Forcing companies to adopt non-proprietary, standards based connectors in an attempt to reduce waste and redundant cables and chargers = good thing.
Forcing companies to adopt mechanisms to dilute security and allow for snooping = bad thing.
Honestly, I think the tech world has the upper hand on this one, because the vast majority of people support privacy. So if their favourite tech giant refuses to comply, they'll be supported by their customers. The Government will lose, and that's good, because it's overreach anyway.
Anyone that would condone a government attacking the poorest and most desperate people in a country , to distract the population from its own useless administration , needs to give their heads a wobble. Shame on you.
Just a correction: the EU is not even forcing apple to adopt non-proprietary connectors. Just ONE of the connectors in the device needs to be standard. Apple can have all the proprietary ports they want by simply adding more than one to their devices.
You don't have to wonder. The U.S. (and probably other governments) have asked for them to create a backdoor in iOS and they have consistently refused.
"Our users all around the world want security..."
Seditionists, anarchists, child pornographers, etc.
Seditionists, anarchists, child pornographers, etc.
Yes, you're quite right. That hadn't occurred to me. But forcing them have at least that one standard port is, in my opinion, the right thing to do.
You remind me of Tipper and her campaign against violence in music and video games from the 80s. Nothing happened.
No, he's making a contrast there. In other words, he's saying, "We'd expect this from Iran, but not from a liberal democracy."
Sort of ironic how you think one is overreach and the other isn't. Both are overreach.
And your solution is what exactly? Should no-one have a right to private messages and conversations anymore?
Whats next, strip searches for everyone, suspicious or not, just in case they are doing something illegal?
That is the goal. Warrantless monitoring of everyones tech.
Depending on which country you live in, people's post does get checked because ALL post get's scanned one form or another. The only thing the postal service would not be able to see is the written words but yes some postal services in the world DO check peoples post.
My solution is the governments solution. What's yours? Basically you want criminals to be able to go about their criminal activity unchecked. Same goes for everyone else who down votes me, all of you want criminals to go unchecked because none of you can come up with a viable solution that will deter criminals.
Yes but in the UK, not US. Of course Apple wouldnāt pull out the US, they just said No like you reminded me. And it isnāt apples to apples comparison that weāre making.Apple doesn't have to pull out of the offending country, in this case the US. Tim Cook said he wouldn't comply to the court orders. Apple has literally said F you to US court orders demanding Apple make a back door for iPhones.
US Courts: I order you to make a backdoor for iOS.
Tim Cook: F-Off, we aren't doing it.
US Courts: What do we do now?
Apple Refuses Court Order to Unlock San Bernardino Shooterās Phone
The FBI wants the tech giant to make a backdoor for encrypted data stored on an iPhone.foreignpolicy.com
AppleāFBI encryption dispute - Wikipedia
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I honestly forgot about the f you to US government, but Apple isnāt threatening to pull out of UK for governmental overreach with their recent ruling: which is my point that I thought Apple should have done instead of introducing USB-C.
it just seemed like Apple caved and complied with the UK instead of threatening to pull out, which is what I think they should have done.
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Good for them I guessā¦but itās hard to know what to believe anymore.
It is a good publicity stunt for Meta. They know it is unlikely that they it will get that far, but at the same time they appear like the guard of user privacy. That is quite absurd. Meta makes billions with user data. They do not really need to know the content of the messages. The meta data is much more valuable. It allows Meta to create a social graph of its users. They know who sends messages to who, how often and at what time of the day or the night.
For messages to people really close to you you should NEVER use WhatsApp. If a person is really important to you, you can even use a messaging app just for messages to that person. Meta really should not know when and how often you write messages to your wife, your mother, your kids. You should not use iMessage for all those people either, as Apple is also very interested in your social graph for ad targeting.
Really dangerous people will grow to great length to hide their communication including the meta data. All those anti terrorist measures usually only reduce the privacy of normal people. If you use TOR for example, your connection gets really slow. So most people, who do not do anything illegal, will prefer speed over privacy.
For messages to people really close to you you should NEVER use WhatsApp. If a person is really important to you, you can even use a messaging app just for messages to that person. Meta really should not know when and how often you write messages to your wife, your mother, your kids. You should not use iMessage for all those people either, as Apple is also very interested in your social graph for ad targeting.
Really dangerous people will grow to great length to hide their communication including the meta data. All those anti terrorist measures usually only reduce the privacy of normal people. If you use TOR for example, your connection gets really slow. So most people, who do not do anything illegal, will prefer speed over privacy.
Typical government knee jerk response: ābanā.
99.99 percent of gun owners are law abiding, 0.01 percent commits crime - ban guns.
People use encrypted chat because of sense of safety and privacy, a fraction of a percent uses it for nefarious purposes - ban encryption.
I just love the fact WhatsApp is very big when it comes to privacy. For example:
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Message Privately | WhatsApp Features
Privacy is our priority. Beyond end-to-end encryption, we add additional layers of protection. You can customize your privacy settings to choose who can see when youāre online, and when you last used WhatsApp.www.whatsapp.com
These adverts are all over the place in the UK right now.