On the pc side EA says that:
Pretty low requirements, (Geforce 4?) but if you've seen C&C3 at low it looks like mud. Even if it can run might not be worth it.
...and EA thanks for the lack of laptop support.
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When the hell is Command and Conquer 3 coming to the Mac?!
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On the pc side EA says that:
...and EA thanks for the lack of laptop support.
As you said, C and C 3 doesn't look great with it's visual settings pulled way down. Still, the lack of laptop support is a bit weak. Then again, I'm not sure what the game would look like on an integrated chipset since I am not familiar with the power of laptop integrated graphics.
The sad thing is after all this wait I'm not all that excited about C and C 3. I played it for a bit with boot camp, and while it's definitely enjoyable, the game is incredibly fast paced, almost too fast paced for my tastes.
I am used to playing Warcraft 3, which is fairly quick, especially compared to games like Sup Com, where some of the "uber' units can take over and hour to build if you don't have a whole lot of workers "assisting." (This cuts the build time down quite a bit, but it still takes a long time for the bigger units to finish.) Anyhow, the point is, C and C 3 plays ridiculously quickly. Buildings and units alike can be churned out like nobodies business and it felt at times like it was difficult to devise a strategy when you had units and buildings popping out left and right.
That said, I am sure once one learns the hotkeys and gets more familiar with the game, it probably doesn't feel quite so overwhelmingly fast. I'm interested to hear what others think once this game hits shelves and people get a chance to try it out.
The sad thing is after all this wait I'm not all that excited about C and C 3. I played it for a bit with boot camp, and while it's definitely enjoyable, the game is incredibly fast paced, almost too fast paced for my tastes.
I am used to playing Warcraft 3, which is fairly quick, especially compared to games like Sup Com, where some of the "uber' units can take over and hour to build if you don't have a whole lot of workers "assisting." (This cuts the build time down quite a bit, but it still takes a long time for the bigger units to finish.) Anyhow, the point is, C and C 3 plays ridiculously quickly. Buildings and units alike can be churned out like nobodies business and it felt at times like it was difficult to devise a strategy when you had units and buildings popping out left and right.
That said, I am sure once one learns the hotkeys and gets more familiar with the game, it probably doesn't feel quite so overwhelmingly fast. I'm interested to hear what others think once this game hits shelves and people get a chance to try it out.
Really didn't expect it to run on a plain macbook. But I wonder with EAs statement of not supporting laptop chipsets how will this play out for people who have MBP with an X1600? How about the iMacs that use mobility GPUS? I'm just curious how will this affect updates and patches?
On a side note I did run Halo when it first came out on a celeron laptop with integrated graphics. Single player was playable, but multi-player was...horrible. There was no red or blue everyone was just grey, LOL
I thought CNC3 was a fairly quick game as well but after spending quite some time with it (probably 100+ hours) you learn the ropes of the game and actually, it takes more effort and speed from me to play Warcraft 3 than it does Command & Conquer 3, its not THAT fast as say, Starcraft.
It is an awesome game though.
Aside from my minor grumbling, it really should not be a problem on a X1600 and with a good core duo and 1Gig of ram it should run well. You should be able to run it at or near high quality on 1600x1200. Gamespot has a good hardware overview.
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6168067/p-6.html
Also from Apple store:
I'll be interested to see this. The Windows version works very well on Boot Camp with high detail on my MacBook Pro.
The PC version is more graphics card bound than anything else so I can understand the lack of GMA950 support. I did try it on my old desktop PC (P4 2.4, GeForce4) and it looked terrible but played OK - seems to need decent vertex and pixel shaders as it was just as bad with a GeForce 6500. Having changed the graphics card out for a Radeon 9800 it's looks as good as the MBP until you get a lot of units sapping the CPU power then the framerate drops.
Lets hope EA have done a decent job, otherwise they'll have kicked themselves in the foot.
I might pop by one of the Manchester stores tomorrow and ask.
The PC version is more graphics card bound than anything else so I can understand the lack of GMA950 support. I did try it on my old desktop PC (P4 2.4, GeForce4) and it looked terrible but played OK - seems to need decent vertex and pixel shaders as it was just as bad with a GeForce 6500. Having changed the graphics card out for a Radeon 9800 it's looks as good as the MBP until you get a lot of units sapping the CPU power then the framerate drops.
Lets hope EA have done a decent job, otherwise they'll have kicked themselves in the foot.
I might pop by one of the Manchester stores tomorrow and ask.
Has anyone seen Hardware reviews and game performance for the C&C on the new imacs and the mac pro with X1900? I am looking at getting a new comp to replace my imac G5 with ATI radeon 9600 128 Mb Vram.
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Dates given on Macworld...
Looks like they decided to bring back the exclusive deal with apple after all...
http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/08/17/eaships/index.php
Looks like they decided to bring back the exclusive deal with apple after all...
http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/08/17/eaships/index.php
Well well well. That's rather frustrating. While it is certainly possible to order from the online store now, all the games have a shipping delay that more or less ends up coinciding with the retail release dates.
So while you can place an online order now, it looks as if doing so won't be any quicker than waiting for the games to make it to retail locations. Both NFS Carbon and Harry Potter have an estimated shipping time of 3-5 days while C and C 3 and Battlefield 2142 are listed as 7-10 days until shipping. Both these delays put the shipping dates in the ballpark of the 21st and 28th respectively.
So unless you don't have a retail outlet near you, or you don't want to make the drive to one, it probably makes more sense to wait for the games to hit shelves if you want a copy asap.
So while you can place an online order now, it looks as if doing so won't be any quicker than waiting for the games to make it to retail locations. Both NFS Carbon and Harry Potter have an estimated shipping time of 3-5 days while C and C 3 and Battlefield 2142 are listed as 7-10 days until shipping. Both these delays put the shipping dates in the ballpark of the 21st and 28th respectively.
So unless you don't have a retail outlet near you, or you don't want to make the drive to one, it probably makes more sense to wait for the games to hit shelves if you want a copy asap.
It looks as if the shipping time for Command and Conquer 3 is now 24 hours from the apple store online.
Command and Conquer 3
I will call retail outlets later today and see if they have an ETA on shipments to them.
Update: I just called the apple store near me and the gentleman I spoke with said he had both Command and Conquer 3 and Battlefield 2142 in store and ready to sell.
Update Part 2: I just bought Command and Conquer 3 and Battlefield 2142. I am installing them at this time and will post later about performance etc.
Command and Conquer 3
I will call retail outlets later today and see if they have an ETA on shipments to them.
Update: I just called the apple store near me and the gentleman I spoke with said he had both Command and Conquer 3 and Battlefield 2142 in store and ready to sell.
Update Part 2: I just bought Command and Conquer 3 and Battlefield 2142. I am installing them at this time and will post later about performance etc.
Quality / Performance Balance
guys any luck on the best settings, I got 2.0 Core Duo with 2 GB of RAM... any luck with some good settings?
guys any luck on the best settings, I got 2.0 Core Duo with 2 GB of RAM... any luck with some good settings?
Horrible Performance
I just made a post on Apple's review portion of the site. I have a smoking machine and nothing running - it's a dog. EA should be ashamed as they let down the Mac community.
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP...wo/StoreReentry.wo?productLearnMore=TN642LL/A
I just made a post on Apple's review portion of the site. I have a smoking machine and nothing running - it's a dog. EA should be ashamed as they let down the Mac community.
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP...wo/StoreReentry.wo?productLearnMore=TN642LL/A
aye, just got it in, really excited to play it on my MAC, i load it on and pffft, it blows hard. I have a 1 yr old 15" Macbook Pro with a 2 GHz dual core intel. 1 GB of RAM and an ATI Radeon X1600. This meets and exceeds specifications shown on the box and website and i have to run it at a choppy resolution and turn the graphics down big time for it to run even halfway decent. Whoever the guy at the apple website is that says he ran it on my machine's specs flawlessly is crazy.
I haven't had too many performance issues on my 2.4Ghz MBP with the 8600M chipset. Runs at 1920x1200 pretty well, with shaders and a few other things turned up high.
Granted, I am running Leopard, not Tiger. I am not too surprised Tiger is bottlenecking, actually... C&C3 seems to be a very CPU-intensive game, and OpenGL is also fairly CPU intensive on Tiger.
Granted, I am running Leopard, not Tiger. I am not too surprised Tiger is bottlenecking, actually... C&C3 seems to be a very CPU-intensive game, and OpenGL is also fairly CPU intensive on Tiger.
HELP - any NO DVD fixes for this game?
Just bought the game. Does anyone have a NO-DVD patch for this? I HATE having to put the stupid DVD in each time i play and I also refuse to buy 2 copies for my son and I to play on our own network. The sales clerk at the Mac Store (bought it at retail Apple store) said I would have no problems.
I tried making a disk image using disk utility, but although it will install, it doesn't seem to accept that when trying to play.
I am not trying to pirate, I have a retail box here in my hand along with the installation code, which works fine. I just want to avoid the use of the DVD.
thanks for any prompt reply - my son is totally disappointed we can't play together on our Lan.
Just bought the game. Does anyone have a NO-DVD patch for this? I HATE having to put the stupid DVD in each time i play and I also refuse to buy 2 copies for my son and I to play on our own network. The sales clerk at the Mac Store (bought it at retail Apple store) said I would have no problems.
I tried making a disk image using disk utility, but although it will install, it doesn't seem to accept that when trying to play.
I am not trying to pirate, I have a retail box here in my hand along with the installation code, which works fine. I just want to avoid the use of the DVD.
thanks for any prompt reply - my son is totally disappointed we can't play together on our Lan.
I doubt the license lets you do that.Just bought the game. Does anyone have a NO-DVD patch for this? I HATE having to put the stupid DVD in each time i play and I also refuse to buy 2 copies for my son and I to play on our own network. The sales clerk at the Mac Store (bought it at retail Apple store) said I would have no problems.
I tried making a disk image using disk utility, but although it will install, it doesn't seem to accept that when trying to play.
I am not trying to pirate, I have a retail box here in my hand along with the installation code, which works fine. I just want to avoid the use of the DVD.
thanks for any prompt reply - my son is totally disappointed we can't play together on our Lan.
Just bought the game. Does anyone have a NO-DVD patch for this? I HATE having to put the stupid DVD in each time i play and I also refuse to buy 2 copies for my son and I to play on our own network. The sales clerk at the Mac Store (bought it at retail Apple store) said I would have no problems.
I tried making a disk image using disk utility, but although it will install, it doesn't seem to accept that when trying to play.
I am not trying to pirate, I have a retail box here in my hand along with the installation code, which works fine. I just want to avoid the use of the DVD.
thanks for any prompt reply - my son is totally disappointed we can't play together on our Lan.
The big problem is that EA is using SecuROM (*puke*), and so it looks for the physical drive, unmounts the DVD, and does some reading directly from the drive to verify your copy.
To be honest, I am kinda surprised that Cider lets something like SecuROM work correctly on OS X. And the fact that it actually worked without being a PITA like it is on Windows... (EDIT: Well, except the fact that the C&C3 disc can't be in the second drive if the first one has a disc in it)