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Other Anyone else miss the iPhones released under Jobs’ leadership?
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I think iPhones generally evolved nicely, but I doubt we would see big protruding camera bumps under his leadership. Doubt we would see display notches as well, Steve was way too perfectionistic for compromises like that. He would probably push like crazy on the team to find another way to implement front & back cameras. Not saying what we currently have is bad (it works). Just sayin...
Me! I really miss the iPhones released under Jobs's leadership. I suspect if Jobs was still around, even if iPhones had Face ID, they'd still also have Touch ID and 90-degree corners on the display (instead of rounded corners). There would be no notch, and no Dynamic Notchland.
Also, we would have faster wired data transfer speeds instead of USB 2.0 (and the slow USB 3.0 on the 15 Pro), with USB 3.0 arriving to iPhones in 2013, then Thunderbolt 2, then Thunderbolt 3, with Thunderbolt 4 on the current iPhones, and Thunderbolt 5 on next year's iPhone.
We'd also have no camera bumps on the rear and thus the phone would lie flat on a flat surface.
We'd also have beautiful and user-friendly skeuomorphism instead of the current ugly and user-unfriendly flat design, which Apple copied from Microsoft. What a gorgeous UI that iOS 6 had! It made things intuitive for elderly people who never used a smartphone because it had culture in the sense that it referenced popular real-world objects.
Tim Cook cannot appreciate such culture because he has no culture. His only culture is that of a beancounter since he is an MBA, and MBAs typically worship soulless companies like McKinsey and Goldman Sachs.
Also, we would have faster wired data transfer speeds instead of USB 2.0 (and the slow USB 3.0 on the 15 Pro), with USB 3.0 arriving to iPhones in 2013, then Thunderbolt 2, then Thunderbolt 3, with Thunderbolt 4 on the current iPhones, and Thunderbolt 5 on next year's iPhone.
We'd also have no camera bumps on the rear and thus the phone would lie flat on a flat surface.
We'd also have beautiful and user-friendly skeuomorphism instead of the current ugly and user-unfriendly flat design, which Apple copied from Microsoft. What a gorgeous UI that iOS 6 had! It made things intuitive for elderly people who never used a smartphone because it had culture in the sense that it referenced popular real-world objects.
Tim Cook cannot appreciate such culture because he has no culture. His only culture is that of a beancounter since he is an MBA, and MBAs typically worship soulless companies like McKinsey and Goldman Sachs.
Just having one or two models in each annual lineup could never(!) generate the total revenue that the three tiered lineups can, as there would only be one or two models for all needs and thus no way to sell extreme low and high-end options:
$429 SE, with its bottom of the barrel specs, highlights how much more you get by spending just $370 more.
$799 mid-tier, with a mix of acceptable and contemporary specs for its price point, highlights how you get the latest and greatest by just spending $200 more.
Then you’ve agreed to spend $999 and you might as well spend just spend $200 more to get the absolute maximum while also doubling the internal storage.
Brilliant marketing/sales strategy for getting most consumers to spend $1199 if they can afford it.
And also the perfect manipulation as you don’t even consider if any of these prices reflect anything anywhere near the value of the parts and costs of development that goes into them, or what competitors offer you at those price points.
The three tiered Apple value ladder just works too well to go back to the more simple “one size fits everyone” approach lineups.
Higher sales numbers and more total revenue.
-Excepting any for profit business to go in any other direction is futile.
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iOS 6 is so beautiful man. That iteration of iOS and the iPhone 5 was the best combination I’ve ever used.
i do have fond memories of the 3G to 4S but i don't miss them. after i sold my 4S in late 2013 i didn't have an iphone until 2020 when the 12 Pro Max came out. it reminded me of the design of the 4S which i loved but with a modern take (large screens, no huge disgusting bezels, and no giant charging adapter). it felt like the perfect phone to jump back in. i don't hate the designs of the 5-11. in fact i really really wanted a 5 and the XR.
there is no real reason to want old iphones from the time of Jobs. the hardware and software is archaic. the best apple can do is to be inspired by them and that's what they done with the 12-15. the iphone 4/4S design was so ahead of its time. obviously the design has been changed but the best iphone today is still inspired by it.
there is no real reason to want old iphones from the time of Jobs. the hardware and software is archaic. the best apple can do is to be inspired by them and that's what they done with the 12-15. the iphone 4/4S design was so ahead of its time. obviously the design has been changed but the best iphone today is still inspired by it.
The simpler design was only possible and even necessary, because the underlying hardware was still developing very quickly. A single-core, 32-bit, non-Retina iPhone became almost useless just a few years later and people had to upgrade rather sooner than later. Today’s iPhones offer more design choice, because people can be picky and stick to their old iPhone with a 0.5 mm larger bezel for a couple years longer.
And you would be wrong. Steve Jobs invented rounded corners. It’s his design ideal.
Round Rects Are Everywhere!
How old exactly do you think I am? It’s definitely stylized in a way to appeal to young people in particular, like, that’s not a secret and has nothing to do with how I like it or not.
How would that work?
iPhone 15 as the latest, 13 as the „bare bones“?
So next year they sell the 16 and the 14 again?
Also, yes, people would mind not having last years phone directly from Apple. They want Apple Care and apple as their retailer, sometimes especially outside the US like in the EU were you have a mandatory two year warranty, people want to contact Apple directly if something ever goes wrong instead of the shop they got it from.
They can keep the 13 next year. It’s not unbelievable because Apple has kept the XR around for quite some time as well.
You do realize how ridiculous that would be? They keep selling older phones also because of stock.
It’s not ridiculous at all. They do that for the previous years’ Pro series every year. I know why the current lineup exists the way it is today. I’m saying it doesn’t have to be this way and it could have been more compact.
For sure, I really miss the size of 3, 4 and 5. I did't buy an iPhone until 4, as I had Samsung Flip's and I loved the size of them.
I will keep my 13 mini until it comes something I want. If Apple only sell phablets from now on, I might buy a small Samsung next time around.
I have 2 iPad mini's - 5 & 6, no need for one as a phone too.
I will keep my 13 mini until it comes something I want. If Apple only sell phablets from now on, I might buy a small Samsung next time around.
I have 2 iPad mini's - 5 & 6, no need for one as a phone too.
Just going to leave these here…
www.macrumors.com
In this one Steve Jobs email right around the iPhone 4 era, not only does he mention an “iPhone 4+”, but also an “iPhone nano” and a “lower cost iPhone to replace the 3GS.”
clearly, he was at least considering expanding the lineup.
But it wasn’t just the iPhone either…
www.macrumors.com
Not only were they planning on expanding both the iPhone and iPad lineups under Jobs, but… just look at the iPod and the Mac lineup from 2010.
It was a sea of different options and screen sizes and different Intel processors.
People who think Steve would’ve just sat idly by while Samsung starts to dominate the market with massive screen phones like the GS3 and the Note2 and Note3 are living in fantasy land.
The demand for bigger screens throughout the 2010s was a very real thing, no wonder the best selling iPhones of all time were the 6 and 6+.
2010 Email From Steve Jobs Confirms Apple Had Considered Launching an 'iPhone Nano'
An email from Steve Jobs surfaced as part of evidence of Apple's ongoing legal battle with Epic Games, has confirmed that in 2010, the company...
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clearly, he was at least considering expanding the lineup.
But it wasn’t just the iPhone either…
Eddy Cue Worked to Convince Steve Jobs of Need for 7-Inch iPad in Early 2011
Back in October 2010, Steve Jobs appeared on an Apple earnings conference call to address the Android-based iPad competitors that were just then...
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Not only were they planning on expanding both the iPhone and iPad lineups under Jobs, but… just look at the iPod and the Mac lineup from 2010.
It was a sea of different options and screen sizes and different Intel processors.
People who think Steve would’ve just sat idly by while Samsung starts to dominate the market with massive screen phones like the GS3 and the Note2 and Note3 are living in fantasy land.
The demand for bigger screens throughout the 2010s was a very real thing, no wonder the best selling iPhones of all time were the 6 and 6+.
If i go to Apple website from Canada apple is selling 8 different models of iPhone
That’s before configuring storage and colour
I had an iPhone 4 and iPhone 6. They were fine at the time, but my previous 8+ and my current 14 are vastly better devices.
Amen to that! I actually plan on buying a used black iPhone 5 someday, not for use as a smartphone, but just so I can admire the beauty of iOS 6.
I have iOS 6 running on an iPod touch. My father even has an iPhone 4 running iOS 4. Using them you soon realize how limited of a system they really are compared to modern iOS. It's like comparing Mac OS 9 with macOS 14. I still use OS 9 for nostalgia and old software, but Sonoma is superior in basically every way. Same with iOS.
The point my fellow iOS 6 admirers and I are trying to make is that Apple should've kept the same skeuomorphic design as iOS 6, but with all the functionality of the latest OS.