Sounds like the fix will be in a Catalina update. So it should also fix your system.
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Apple Investigating 16-Inch MacBook Pro Popping Sound Issue, Fix Planned in Future Software Updates
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Sounds like the fix will be in a Catalina update. So it should also fix your system.
Comet Lake H series are supposedly due 2Q/3Q2020, but as you mention they are not going to have integrated Thunderbolt 3. That’s in Ice Lake 10nm so 2022 is the current expectation as you say. But Comet Lake will have WiFi 6 so there’s that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ PS did you mean to post to this thread?
Probably there is no fade at the end of the playback. If the playback is stopped and the amplitude is e.g. 0.85 (can be -1 to 1) it drops immediately to 0 which introduces a sound as the membrane quickly jumps and moves air in the process producing sound waves which probably is the popping sound.
Should be basic stuff but maybe there was an error in the code.
Should be basic stuff but maybe there was an error in the code.
Nope, I don’t, but I don’t need to in order to formulate an opinion on my take on the issue. Clearly others disagree with you, this is not a one-sided argument no matter how you want to spin this. Again, it’s minor.
You guys, someone already posted on the beta 4 release it seems to be addressed. Perhaps instead of whining, everyone try that out and see if that fixes it. I agree, Apple's track record for quality this year has been terribly low on so many fronts, but if the issue is resolved this problem becomes a non issue 2 weeks after release really...
I'm relieved they have confirmed this is only a software problem. At current I'm using the quicktime workaround to stop the popping and it does work which in my opinion confirms their findings that it's not a hardware issue.
Personally I don't find this issue all that bothersome but I do wish Apple's quality control on what for me was a £2,800 computer was higher.
Personally I don't find this issue all that bothersome but I do wish Apple's quality control on what for me was a £2,800 computer was higher.
Simply posted on the latest MacBook thread, rather than an old one where it won't get noticed. Was hoping for ITB as it works better for eGPUs (performance increases and latency decreases as per a test).
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I don't see the reason for the big argument about how bad an issue it is. For some people who use it a certain way it is a huge issue, for others it isn't. For the money spent you want it to be right for what you wan't to do. Apple is looking into it which tells me that there most be enough complaints they need to investigate which is the right thing to do. Why try to bury the fact there is an issue that affects customers.
I think some people here who are dismissing the issue think it only happens when abruptly pausing audio but it actually happens when scrubbing through audio timelines with constant crackle and pops. Some people have it worse than others it's a spectrum seemingly based on what software and audio buffer settings your software uses.
Mistakes happen though, Apple is committed to a software fix so I'm not so bothered but I can understand peoples frustration when they spend so much money and have what to me seems such an obvious issue to have missed in quality control. I mean I can literally reproduce this in YouTube in Safari just scrubbing through a video timeline or by changing web pages while audio is playing etc it's kind of strange to me how they would ship it with this issue that I have a hard time believing they never experienced.
That issue is fairly different to what the 16" MBP does. The 16" does one big "pop" sound when audio stops playing.
I remember this issue years ago with some apple laptops. It was resolved. Also have seen it on a windows machine.
I actually think my IIsi started doing this at one point.
I actually think my IIsi started doing this at one point.
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I have a 2019 Core i9 15" MBP as well. I encounter this issue in Mac OS X and Windows as well. Whenever I try to skip audio tracks to another, the popping sound will appear. I am concerned that at higher volumes, it might damage the speakers.
You'd wish it was a mistake. What it looks like to me is a pattern of problems resulting from poor engineering practices and bad engineering culture (the fact that they don't have feature flags speaks volumes). What worked 10 years ago under Steve obviously no longer works at this scale. On top of that - the current leadership (unlike Steve) it appears is not as passionate about products excellence in general (not that there were no problems then - but the passion was there at least).
Apple looks exactly like Microsoft in the 90s and short of a massive cleanup at all levels of leadership it is going to get 100X worse.
Honestly a lot of bad engineering went on under Steves leadership too like the iPhone 4 antenna thing, the G5 Power Mac's that leaked coolant, the Titanium Powerbook's cracking hinges. I mean let's be realistic, he was the tastemaker but he wasn't guaranteeing things were perfect. Mistakes happen, they're only human.
Where have you been? The sky has been falling for at least 25 years ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It only happens in web video for me on my 16-inch. Apple will fix, case closed, except for the Apple haters who for some reason inhabit Apple comments, they will never forgive.
That video published here is highly misleading, re: Fox News like.
That video published here is highly misleading, re: Fox News like.
Apple will fix this and there will still be people saying "Its unforgivable that they shipped it like this. I reject this fix, it shouldn't have been there in the first place."
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Oh my god. ?
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Oh my god. ?
Why is the person using a giant marker or whatever to press the keys? That adds an extra "click" sound into the troubleshooting when the marker and key make contact. I just found that strange. Are they afraid to touch the keys?
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I agree that this is disappointing, but would professionals rely entirely on the built-in speakers or use studio-quality headphones? Serious question.
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Engineering is a process. There's a certain amount of allowance needed for real-world usage that can't be reproduced in the lab or by a small set of testers. Once products hit consumers' hands, then issues may crop up that were not apparent before. Engineering is built on the lessons learned from previous engineering. It's unrealistic to think they'll get it perfectly every time.
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I agree that this is disappointing, but would professionals rely entirely on the built-in speakers or use studio-quality headphones? Serious question.
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Engineering is a process. There's a certain amount of allowance needed for real-world usage that can't be reproduced in the lab or by a small set of testers. Once products hit consumers' hands, then issues may crop up that were not apparent before. Engineering is built on the lessons learned from previous engineering. It's unrealistic to think they'll get it perfectly every time.
As an engineer myself, yes. And as I said at the end of my post, mistakes happen, they're only human. I was just illustrating to him that things were just the same under Steve Jobs, he was not a god and things didn't work perfectly under him as he seems to think.
Same, but I haven't noticed the popping for awhile. Hope it didn't blow one of the speakers lol.