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Apple Pulls Hong Kong Protest App From App Store Following Chinese Criticism [Updated]
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With all the outrage expressed here, how many are going to vote with their wallet and send a message to Apple by not purchasing their products and services?
Yeah, that's what I thought. Talk about principles and hypocrisy...
But you’re posting a Mac forms LOL
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Either way I would be voting with my wallet because I don’t support violent protesters or rioters as we used to call them attacking police. I don’t support it in the US and I don’t support it anywhere else. This isn’t a war but if they want to start a war I’m for that
Sad to see this, but when you're depending on for profit companies to protect human rights, you've already lost. This is an area for the U.S. government to do things with - really back 30 years ago before we allowed Chinese manufactured goods access to the U.S. market (to power up the Chinese economy and its authoritarian government). Hong Kong is in a sad place with no foreseeable exit, I'm quite surprised the Chinese government hasn't brought the army in at this point. The U.S. government should grant immigration to all the HK'ers that want to come here...spread out over some years of course. The current U.S. administration would never do this, JMHO.
As for Apple, bummer move, however the Chinese govt controls ~30% of their world marketshare - if Mr. Cook had taken a big stand and China locked them out of the market (which they'd do), after the following stock collapse, Mr. Cook would be replaced by a CEO who would do what China wants (and Apple's stock would go back up). Simple as that.
As for Apple, bummer move, however the Chinese govt controls ~30% of their world marketshare - if Mr. Cook had taken a big stand and China locked them out of the market (which they'd do), after the following stock collapse, Mr. Cook would be replaced by a CEO who would do what China wants (and Apple's stock would go back up). Simple as that.
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It's all fine and cool as long as country that is opressed is not where you're living. Makes you wonder what would Apple do in '39.
Based upon reading the comments, I thought you guys cared so much about the police, regardless of where they are. Or does this only apply to the US and if protestors are “The Left?”
If Apple does something here in the US regarding the police, commenters think that Tim Cook is “anti-police,” yet if it happens abroad as in China, commenters think that “free speech is dead.” ?? I’m not even religious, but oh lord. Can you guys please make up your minds already and stop applying a double standard to these issues. Thanks.
If Apple does something here in the US regarding the police, commenters think that Tim Cook is “anti-police,” yet if it happens abroad as in China, commenters think that “free speech is dead.” ?? I’m not even religious, but oh lord. Can you guys please make up your minds already and stop applying a double standard to these issues. Thanks.
Tim would make speeches about how important freedom and human rights are while telling shareholders their profits are best served by cooperating with local authorities as much as possible
Agreed this is exactly my thoughts. There are people who believe police in the USA violate human rights and I’m sure it happens. Does this mean if an app in the USA was used by “protesters” to attack police with Molotov cocktails this would be OK?
I don’t know much about the app or even about the situation.
One thing to keep in mind that while we enjoy freedom of the speech here that is not written into the laws of other countries.
And as much as it stinks if you want to do business in those other countries you have to follow their laws.
Siri....play “I am proud to be an American”
One thing to keep in mind that while we enjoy freedom of the speech here that is not written into the laws of other countries.
And as much as it stinks if you want to do business in those other countries you have to follow their laws.
Siri....play “I am proud to be an American”
Wow. So let's just let all the criminal gangs know the police are about to do a raid so they can stash all their gear.
You're a genius ?
My birthday has been on a Wednesday once...but the article is dated and sure looks like they put it back, then pulled it again, due to Apple loving the ability to run the slave labor assembly lines like they’ve been doing since the early 2000s.
yet, we pretend the slavery that was abolished in the USA was/is the only kind that still exists.
Such is the nature of modern consumption. You buy almonds and avocados even though they use way too much water. You buy diamonds from places that torture people to get them. You wear clothes made by children in sweatshops. You buy electronics from places where people end up killing themselves because the hours and lifestyle are so horrible. The reality is there’s lots of things we claim the highroad for. Yet when faced with it, we can’t actually commit ourselves to doing “the thing.” It inconveniences us. It costs us more money or makes us less money. What Apple did today, what the game companies just did last week, and what the NBA has also done, isn’t really any different than what any of you are doing every single day of your lives. This is the world.
Go plant a tree. Buy RED products. Wear rainbow pins. Pay your carbon credits. Shop at Whole Foods. Drive your Prius or Tesla. Tell yourself you’re “helping.” Smile numbingly in to that mirror.
Go plant a tree. Buy RED products. Wear rainbow pins. Pay your carbon credits. Shop at Whole Foods. Drive your Prius or Tesla. Tell yourself you’re “helping.” Smile numbingly in to that mirror.
But the police should be able to track the public right? Cause they are always right, always just and blah blah blah. How about everyone know where everyone is and you also give up your privacy and let’s be done with it. If it’s all out in the open we know where the criminals are or aren’t.
Frankly the answer is more subtle and more contextual. In this particular case the context is in support of protestors exercising the right to peaceful free speech.
What is happening in Hong Kong is the local government kowtowing to China’s Communist Government (after the Chinese government basically “installed” the new Hong Kong leadership). Oh and yeah people peacefully protested that many months ago. It too annoyed the hell out of the Chinese but it didn’t escalate like these protests have.
Throw in local police to “stamp out” the protests. Basically insisting the people are trespassing and threatening then enforcing arrests which then lead to outrage and self defense by the public that then erupt into full blown riots.
The protesters want to know where the police are to enable them to protest peacefully without the police attempting to get involved (which they should not) assuming the protests remain peaceful.
Tim Cook: Hey look at us, we're WOKE as a company. Apple supports the rights of human beings everywhere!
Except, when it interferes with the real religion of Apple. Dollar signs.
I don't care what Apple does with Apps in HK. Communist China is going to steamroll the place anyway.
But don't sit on your high horse on human rights issues, tell ME how I should live my life, and what I should think when you're just another money grubbing slug like everyone else.
I don't care about the issues per se. All I care about is the quality of the product and if it fulfills my needs. So, I never engaged in boycotts. If I did, I would have to trash 3/4 of my music and never watch another feature film. I don't care about the politics of Singer-X or Actor #2. Just give me some decent entertainment for a while. I'll ignore your politics and enjoy the act.
What irks me is the hypocrisy of it. Tim Cook tries to ride the high horse, but he's on the dollar sign donkey like everyone else. Just make good products and can it.
Except, when it interferes with the real religion of Apple. Dollar signs.
I don't care what Apple does with Apps in HK. Communist China is going to steamroll the place anyway.
But don't sit on your high horse on human rights issues, tell ME how I should live my life, and what I should think when you're just another money grubbing slug like everyone else.
I don't care about the issues per se. All I care about is the quality of the product and if it fulfills my needs. So, I never engaged in boycotts. If I did, I would have to trash 3/4 of my music and never watch another feature film. I don't care about the politics of Singer-X or Actor #2. Just give me some decent entertainment for a while. I'll ignore your politics and enjoy the act.
What irks me is the hypocrisy of it. Tim Cook tries to ride the high horse, but he's on the dollar sign donkey like everyone else. Just make good products and can it.
I bet if there was a IOS App on the Apple store that tracked protesters people would be up in arms about that app. But a app that tracks police is ok? If we do not have some kind of law their is only chaos. I believe in human rights but I also believe in law in order. People in the 70's protested peacefully, none of this violence. I think China as a country needs to progress democratically and move away from state controlled systems.
Yes the police should be able to track the public. That's how crimes are solved and criminals are stopped.
Trust that some of us will not only be voting with our own wallets but the wallets of the collective enterprises that look to our counsel on how to invest their operational budgets on technology expenses.
Apple needs to chill out here. Many of us worked hard to support them when they were an underdog in the enterprise space. And that all can change again.
Bad choice Apple. I thought you would have more respect for the country and it’s values that made you so successful.
I am a 1000% complete free market capitalist. I don't like a lot of regulations, and am generally in favor of global free trade. But this is what happens when companies let money rule above all else. That's not how to run a business. China is not a surprise, people. They are a communist regime, and a command and control economy that think they can enjoy the upside of "capitalism" without all the pesky consumer feedback.
I am going to play devil's advocate and say that Apple did the right thing. There was nothing to be gained for them as a company and, dare I say, all the Apple customers who are not Hong Kong protesters interested in using that app. China is ruled by the Communist Party. Hong Kong is a Chinese city (de facto and is posed to become so de jure in 2049). Communist party is afraid of separatism like a plague - these are the facts. It would be strange to come do business in China and with China based on understanding of these facts and then do an about-face and start doing activism for human rights, etc.
All you feeding greedy corps like Apple now acting like this wasn't expected?
Have some dignity for once, us consumers are to blame. The entire tech industry is pulling strings in the most abusive and hypocrite way possible (politics, privacy, right to repair, labor exploitation, tax evasion) and many of us only care about waiting in line for a damn phone and taking selfies with the present CEO.
This is the world we're shaping for the upcoming generations, censorship & privacy violations where people recognize more a corporate brand than any kind of native nature. You have more power than you think.
Have some dignity for once, us consumers are to blame. The entire tech industry is pulling strings in the most abusive and hypocrite way possible (politics, privacy, right to repair, labor exploitation, tax evasion) and many of us only care about waiting in line for a damn phone and taking selfies with the present CEO.
This is the world we're shaping for the upcoming generations, censorship & privacy violations where people recognize more a corporate brand than any kind of native nature. You have more power than you think.
So far I don’t have any issue with Apple pulling the app. I wouldn’t support an app in the USA that was used to target and ambush police so I can’t support one another country for this purpose.
I see nothing wrong with what Apple is doing, Free Speech for the US sure but it does not apply to communist countries.