Tim probably had nothing to do with this.
Sure he did. This is exactly the stuff he’s into. These decisions definitely cross his desk at some point in time, especially App Store related issues.
Tim probably had nothing to do with this.
I understand why they did this. The government is going after vaping. It starts by getting the government’s science arm to make up lies about vaping. Then they seize the money of vaping businesses. Once this happens anyone associated with vaping can be held liable and have their assets seized by the state or private citizens in ridiculous civil lawsuits. So Apple decided to limit their liability.
Porn is a huge epidemic destroying lives. It is funny how the government doesn’t do anything at all to stop it. It is freely available to not just minors but the very young. So it isn’t like the government really wants to protect citizens, especially the very young.
Someone already posted that section of the Apple guidelines, and noAre alcohol or tobacco related apps allowed?
I love the concept of banning vaping, while leaving cigarettes available for consumption.
1.4.3 Apps that Encourage consumption of tobacco and vape products, illegal drugs, or excessive amounts of alcohol are not permitted on the App Store. Apps that encourage minors to consume any of these substances will be rejected. Facilitating the sale of marijuana, tobacco, or controlled substances (except for licensed pharmacies) isn’t allowed.
- 1.4.4 Apps may only display DUI checkpoints that are published by law enforcement agencies, and should never encourage drunk driving or other reckless behavior such as excessive speed.
Forgive the nitpicking, but yes, it is. Nicotine is a drug.
Edit: This isn't advocacy for Apple's decision to ban the apps; I think that's silly (and I also think vaping is silly) and likely to have about zero impact. And if it does happen to reduce vaping use, that's probably bad for public health, because vaping looks so far to be less harmful than cigarette smoking. When vaping products are banned (not by Apple; I'm talking governments here), cigarette usage is likely to go up.
My unsolicited advice: Don't smoke. Don't vape. But if you must do one of the two, vape instead of smoke. And use legal vaping products, provided they still exist.
Good idea. The problem is, passengers are within 4 feet of the steering wheel. If I'm on on a long car ride, I need my phone. Coming from a person who will never be able to drive.If Apple wants to do something innovative to stop people from dying design iOS NOT to show an onscreen keyboard when a device is within 4 feet of a steering wheel of a moving car. That would save thousands of teen lives a year. Now that we have NFC tech in an iPhone, car manufacturers need to place a chip in the steering wheel that will disable texting for all moving vehicle drivers.
Daddy Apple
Going off of your comment of it "probably" being less harmful than smoking. I'm going to offer my take on why I think people in general are coming down so much harder on vaping. I work in a hospital. We've had plenty of people come in for vaping related issues. Some have admitted to using the THC cartridges. Some have said they never used a THC cartridge. The one thing all of these cases (in our own experience) have in common is that the illnesses related to vaping...are showing up faster. We know tobacco makes you sick. It's a fact and no one disputes it. But on average, it takes a loooooong time. We have countless people coming in who have said they've only been vaping for (at the longest) just a few years.All else being equal, vaping is probably less harmful than smoking. But the issue is that vaping has exploded among young people who would otherwise not smoke. Last year was the first in decades where nicotine use actually INcreased. These apps are obviously meant to appeal to a younger clientele, so Apple is pulling them. And rightfully so.
That explains why after paying for a maxed out MBP Apple's website says "Who's your daddy?".Daddy Apple
Most of the MacRumors people that blindly defend Apple apparently, we seem to be the exception.Apple is concerned about your lungs. But Chinese nationals persecuted by their government? Not so much. I can't take any of their virtue signalling seriously. But it must work on some people.
It starts by getting the government’s science arm to make up lies about vaping.
Seems like lots of vaping users should start a class action lawsuit against Apple.This is ridiculous. The vaping products that are causing problems are vape cartridges. They've pulled the apps for several dry herb vaping devices. These devices take dry cannabis and heat it so that it produces vapor, not smoke.
Since these apps are missing, these $300+ devices are worthless. For instance, the Firefly app was one of the apps that were pulled. The Firefly has no user interface on the devices. It's controlled 100% by the app. These can no longer be used. By the way, the Firefly was developed by a couple of ex Apple execs.
A million times THIS^^^The CDC has determined that the vapes causing the "vaping illness" are THC ones bought off the streets that also contain vitamin E acetate. Vitamin E acetate is extremely toxic when inhaled.
Legitimate nicotine vape companies should not be punished because of this underground activity. Nicotine vaping has safely been around for almost 15 years now. Only now, when these THC vapes hit the streets, do we have this problem.
But, of course, Apple isn't going to factor that into its thinking. It's just gonna take the "ban everything" PC approach that is prevalent in today's "let's not think too hard about it" society.
Going off of your comment of it "probably" being less harmful than smoking. I'm going to offer my take on why I think people in general are coming down so much harder on vaping. I work in a hospital. We've had plenty of people come in for vaping related issues. Some have admitted to using the THC cartridges. Some have said they never used a THC cartridge. The one thing all of these cases (in our own experience) have in common is that the illnesses related to vaping...are showing up faster. We know tobacco makes you sick. It's a fact and no one disputes it. But on average, it takes a loooooong time. We have countless people coming in who have said they've only been vaping for (at the longest) just a few years.
We aren't ignoring the fact that cigarettes are bad for you. But what's alarming is that on average, those who get sick from vaping...are getting sick FASTER. Also worth noting (I don't know what came of this claim), but there were some cases of the illness related to THC cartridges...but those cartridges came from a dispensary in a state where it's legal to buy them, which means black market shouldn't have been a factor. It was in Oregon, I believe. I may be wrong on that part.
Someone already posted that section of the Apple guidelines, and no
It's never killed anyoneThe cannabis apps are ok then?
Apple knows what is best for me. Thank you father Apple.
I am tired of living in a nanny state. I miss the days when Apple had a CEO that didn't care to make political statements.
You do realize the small amount (~9%) of people denying using illicit THC carts are lying, right? As in, the CDC and FDA have gone back to those and some have admitted afterward that they lied, and used THC carts bought “off the street”.Going off of your comment of it "probably" being less harmful than smoking. I'm going to offer my take on why I think people in general are coming down so much harder on vaping. I work in a hospital. We've had plenty of people come in for vaping related issues. Some have admitted to using the THC cartridges. Some have said they never used a THC cartridge. The one thing all of these cases (in our own experience) have in common is that the illnesses related to vaping...are showing up faster. We know tobacco makes you sick. It's a fact and no one disputes it. But on average, it takes a loooooong time. We have countless people coming in who have said they've only been vaping for (at the longest) just a few years.
We aren't ignoring the fact that cigarettes are bad for you. But what's alarming is that on average, those who get sick from vaping...are getting sick FASTER. Also worth noting (I don't know what came of this claim), but there were some cases of the illness related to THC cartridges...but those cartridges came from a dispensary in a state where it's legal to buy them, which means black market shouldn't have been a factor. It was in Oregon, I believe. I may be wrong on that part.