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Apple Removing Vaping-Related Apps From App Store Today Amid Public Health Concerns
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Click hungry media puts out sensational stories -> misinformed mob demands action -> clueless politicians grunt out easy, but incorrect answers -> corporate squids obediently squirm.
Some of them are simply bluetooth controller apps for the vape device itself -- used for setting the temperature and other parameters. This is idiotic.
Exactly. Thank goodness in the UK we are a lot more level-headed about this whole issue. Public Health England say vaping is at least 95% safer than smoking. So many people have vaped safely to give up the toxins caused by burning cigarettes. Some people have bought illegal/blackmarket/unofficial liquid and given themselves lung damage in doing so so this is a complete over-reaction – what about banning beer because of a dodgy batch of home brewed stuff? People also make the mistake of blaming tobacco companies, this is all about big pharma who don't like the fact that harm reduction through vaping has eaten away at their profits from mostly useless cessation products like nicotine patches.
It’s not my specific job to determine who’s lying and who’s not. But when you have blood drawn and THC doesn’t show up on lab results...it makes it pretty easy for us to know. We have cases related to THC cartridges...and cases that aren’t. My job is treatment. Other people have the job of finding out why.
Maybe, just maybe...inhaling something, whether it be vapor, tobacco smoke, or pot smoke...maybe it’s just bad for you! Humans are literally the only creatures on this earth who are dumb enough to willingly inhale smoke. Every other living thing runs from it. If something makes you cough or makes you feel weird...that’s your body’s way of saying that “something“ isn’t supposed to be there!
I don't drink but this is an argument you hear a lot from drinkers too. Ask them what they think about a ban on alcohol though and.......
Same applies for anything that is bad for you.
You’re joking right? I suggest you look at the App Store in the USA. Unless you’re in a different country you can’t be serious
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This being said the App Store belongs to Apple so they can choose whatever app they feel is appropriate or not. It’s just like Facebook will take down the posts they don’t agree with but that’s their prerogative
Illicit THC carts also sometimes do not contain actual THC. Some are using spice. Some are using God knows what. that’s why it’s a problem.
And use common sense. For over a decade, people in the US have been vaping. And then out of the blue, in the course of a month or two, people start getting sick. Over 90% of those admit to using illicit THC carts. Come on
Oh, and how are the other countries being hit by this illness?? Hmmmm
You have zero vices? Don't eat ice cream? Caffeine? Perhaps the Lord is your vice?
Because Apple doesn't control or host the internet. It does control and host the AppStore though, and can be liable for the things in it. But nobody blames Internet Explorer because the Pirate Bay exists.
Not saying that vapings apps should be banned (they shouldn't). But these are different things.
Buying a throw-away device on credit is also bad for you but Apple doesn't stop you from going into debt for a new iPhone on their credit do they?
I'm sick of people deciding how others should live their lives. I'm sick of overpopulation, call for a ban on having babies? sheesh
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Let's be truthful -- you can still totally use your firefly (and you didn't lose the app if you had it installed), you simply can't adjust the temps or one/two button selections.
This app ban flies in the face of the facts. The only vape products causing problems are knockoff cartridges containing Vitamin E acetate. The vast majority do not.
THC vape delivery devices function as medical equipment for millions of people worldwide.
Since Apple is so interested in safety, will they be banning Waze since it encourages driving on dangerous roads which cause over 30,000 deaths a year in the US alone?
THC vape delivery devices function as medical equipment for millions of people worldwide.
Since Apple is so interested in safety, will they be banning Waze since it encourages driving on dangerous roads which cause over 30,000 deaths a year in the US alone?
Lol I love this "public health crisis" from vaping... like there hasn't been a public health crisis from smoking cigs for years yet nobody is up-in-arms about the tobacco industry killing thousands daily. This whole thing is yikes.
Please provide proof that inhaling marijuana smoke is harmful.
Let's be truthful. Not being able to change the temp is a really big deal. I have dumb vaporizer. I change the temperature every 10 minutes. Start out low, work up to higher temps. And, sure, the people who already downloaded the app are fine, but what about someone who is right now purchasing a Firefly and doesn't know that Apple banned these apps? What does this do for future sales of those products? Apple has effectively killed this product with this decision and have likely put a lot of people out of work.
Actually, that ability would likely most concern Apple. Not idiotic at all.
I suspect the lawsuits that will no doubt result from recent vaping-related deaths and hospitalizations (including a teen undergoing a double lung transplant), would likely include Apple as a defendant if an Apple iPhone were the controller/programmer of the vaping device that caused such hospitalizations and deaths.
As a company, I'd want absolutely no part of being associated with that. Good on Apple for their decision.
Ugh. You don't understand the problem. The devices which are controlled by the apps vaporize dry herb. There isn't a single case of a person who vapes dry herb being sent to the hospital with this vape illness. Every single person who's had this illness used vape cartridges. Vape cartridges are concentrated THC cut with some thinning agent to make them consumable. The thinning agent is the problem, not the TCH concentrate, so banning apps that control devices that use flower makes no sense at all, as it pertains to the recent health crisis.
Actually...plenty of people were and are up in arms about cigs. That’s why we have warnings on tobacco products, high taxes on them, strict regulations and bans on where you can and can’t smoke them, age limits, information on why it’s bad for you, warnings of the illnesses that can be caused by it, the list goes on and on.........
You can‘t even advertise these things on tv commercials. You won’t see a billboard on the side of the highway advertising for cigarettes or cigars. My state uses the money gained by tobacco sales to fund programs to educate the public on why tobacco is bad for you! And one of the first things our state is going to be spending weed revenue on...is education on why smoking weed is bad for you! So at least they’re consistent.
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If you believe that it’s not...you aren’t worth the effort. Smoke, regardless of what it’s from...is harmful. Period. Scientific fact. I would love to see you post a reputable study that shows marijuana smoke is NOT harmful. Good luck. Science isn’t going to be on your side.
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You're right. Smoke is harmful because it contains tar and other solids which carry harmful carcinogens. Vaporizing does not produce smoke. It produces....vapor. Vapor does not contain the solids that smoke carries, which is why vaporizing has become so popular.
I can tell you I've been vaping for >3 yrs. I am an endurance athlete. Vaping has not affected my endurance at all. And that's not just looking at subjective "feelings" or rating of perceived exertion. I track my health stats very closely. Weight, heart rate, sleep, body fat %, PO2, etc.
Last I checked, 10 out of 10 people die. But who knows, maybe not vaping is the key to immortality.