Let the DACA non-criminal stay, but at the cost of birthright citizenship. If you take away the reward, the juice is worth less than the squeeze.
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Apple's Tim Cook and Deirdre O'Brien Urge Supreme Court to Protect Dreamers by Upholding DACA
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- Poor neighbor kicks in your front door
- Throws his 4-year old inside your living room
- Police arrest neighbor
- Leave kid for you raise, feed, clothe and educate
- Cant kick kid out because its mean or something
DACA
- Poor neighbor kicks in your front door
- Throws his 4-year old inside your living room
- Police arrest neighbor
- Leave kid for you raise, feed, clothe and educate
- Cant kick kid out because its mean or something
DACA
What the heck does DACA have to to with H1B and all the cheap imported LEGAL immigrant labor that Apple needs to keep their profits so high?
Legally, they’re here illegally. Objective fact of law.
If there’s an edge condition problem in the law, fix the law.
Strange how those allegedly interested in helping those affected won’t take objective steps to solve it; instead, they just use it as little more than a marketing campaign.
Not according to the brave men and women who protect our border. The all want a wall. A big one.
Cook should stick to making phones and computers and to be honest those have not been that great in recent years.
Understand what you are saying, but it seems Congress will not get anything done unless their feet are held to the fire.
Obama tried giving Congress time, and President Trump offered a deal for negotiation, Congress got nothing done.
I hope if the Supreme Court shoots down DACA it will force Congress’ hand and make them workout a compromise.
wait....you DON'T think a CFO should have been put in charge of a visionary tech company??
come on, look at all the new services!
No, the term is “illegal alien”: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1365
And yes, Cook conflated by a non-sequitur lauding of the contributions of legal immigrants in a discussion about illegal immigrants.
we are talking about $5 billion in case you haven’t seen how much money we spend that is a drop in the bucket.
Basically he did this to show one thing they do not want a solution they want an issue to run on.
Tim is a citizen just like you are.
I think it is ridiculous when people say CEO, athletes, celebrities, or whoever else should mind their own business and stay out of politics. "Stay in your lane" mentality.
Tim has the right to share his opinion just like you and I. If he wants to use his platform and position to express it, more power to him.
The more opinions/positions we have, the merrier. Asking people to do otherwise is not something that should happen in a free society. This is a free country, after all.
The problem is DACA isn’t legislation, it‘s executive order.
We need legislation for it, but those claiming concern about the issue won’t pressure the proper legislative solution. Trump offered to sign DACA legislation, if accompanied by legislation physically blocking illegal border crossing; bizarrely, Congress refused to cooperate.
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You are wrong. it is a terrible piece of presidential policy
It is not even a piece of legislation which makes it doubly worse. Obama Could not get his way so he signed executive orders. He just never expected a Republican to ever be in the White House again who could unsigned them immediately.
They are totally entitled to their opinion. Where have I forbidden that?
The difference is he stands on his soap box but doesn’t seem to resolve the most obvious human rights issues that props up the very company that he runs. It’s not excusable, the hypocrisy, especially because he is in a position to fix it
Congratulations on conflating the concept of a border with a wasteful wall
Border Wall strengthens the Country.....
Those allegations are on the whole false. Employees are paid about 3x more than equivalent local workers. There is high demand for those positions. Working conditions are much better than local norms. Suicide rates are much lower. Apple imposes very strict human rights rules.
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Do you have a door at home? Do you lock it? Shouldn’t you be letting in anyone in need of a bed & meal?Congratulations on conflating the concept of a border with a wasteful wall
FTFY:
- Educate kid in US taxpayer-funded public education system, while parent works hard to raise, feed, and clothe kid at their own expense.
- Threaten to kick out now-productive, educated, taxpaying member of society, because they didn't immigrate legally (when they were 4).
Agreed. We need both reasonable border enforcement and a clear and viable path to citizenship, where appropriate.
Violent criminals are most certainly not allowed to enter and remain in the US "just because". Is there a specific case you're referring to?
I agree, one should not have to jump through hoops in order to enter the US.
All of them? You might want to be more specific, considering these policies include family separation and holding both kids and adults for weeks or more at a time in truly horrendous conditions.
US government reports suggests that between 50 and 75% of undocumented immigrants do in fact pay taxes (admittedly old 2007 report), and, whether we're willing to admit it or not, play an essential role in the US economy (AFB reference). The issue is not as simple as you make it out to be.
Please, tell us, where has "uncontrolled" immigration lead California? (And how would you know? Current policy is certainly dysfunctional, but hardly uncontrolled.)
I see a lot of "Got mine; f--- off.". What we need is more "What can immigration do for us, both in terms of bringing talent, diversity, and economic prosperity to the US, and in terms of re-cementing the US's role in the world stage?".
Anyway, he promised hundreds of times, in front of large audiences, that Mexico would pay for the wall. Why would he need money from the US for it?
Not "hard" - impossible. For the Dreamers (i.e., those brought here AS CHILDREN), many who ONLY recall living in the United States, there is currently NO means of securing residency, green cards, or ANY legal status short of leaving the country, residing in (what to them) is a FOREIGN country for 15 years, then APPLYING for immigration back into the United States.
As others have pointed out, DACA is meant to provide a "save haven" for these folks until something can be done legislatively to provide them a path to citizenship.
And yet,people who seem to have a higher threat level go though the northern border with Canada and nobody is talking about that.
I'll stop calling them "illegals" when everyone else stops calling them "dreamers." Way to romanticize what is essentially an unwitting child of a law breaker. Like all the kids born here by parents that didn't break the law to be here don't have dreams?
Simple and naive. If checks and balances were truly valid, the Attorney General would be in the justice department and a non-partisan entity.
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You need to get over that. They're not illegal and are not here illegally.