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Some of those extremely high priced listings that have offers make me wonder how low they'd accept. Anything reasonable might be auto-declined though.
 
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Some of those extremely high priced listings that have offers make me wonder how low they'd accept. Anything reasonable might be auto-declined though.
Unlikely that they would be willing to go down to what the system is really worth. These are running around $400 for a complete system (minus monitor). Add a little more for the RAM expansion and maybe $600 tops (I'm not familiar with Amiga prices, just going off of what I've seen on Ebay). I have no objection to someone asking such a price but this has been listed for a while now (anyone surprised?) and it's time to come down to earth.
 

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I suspect Amiga man has put in a placeholder price to get attention but would rather people made offers by email to avoid eBay fees.
 
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Windows 95 on 4 MB RAM? Badass! And what a bargain too!
Those old laptops with a trackball mouse were interesting, I always have used a trackball with a laptop since those days. Most of the time it can sit on the palmrest without issue if space is a big issue. Never been a huge trackpad fan.
 
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TheShortTimer

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Toshiba T1910! :D I've actually got a few of that model somewhere, including the trackball mice - but mine have the monochrome display. They're heavy in comparison to laptops manufactured this century but the keyboards are absolutely delightful to use and these machines were well and truly built to last.

On that note, some years back, I spoke to a trucker who told me that he used one of these in his rig because the radio caused more recent laptops to crash - whereas these are immune to that issue due to the shielding within their casings.

One of mine has DOS 6 & Win 3.11 and the others have just DOS IIRC. They run pretty snappily but Win 95 on those resources? You'd have to be a masochist of the worst order. :oops:
 

Amethyst1

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They run pretty snappily but Win 95 on those resources? You'd have to be a masochist of the worst order. :oops:
My dad ran '95 on a 25mhz 486 with 20mb ram in the late nineties. Slow as heck but good enough for him as a glorified typewriter. I also installed it on a friend's 50mhz 486 with 8mb and a monochrome crt, just to prove it could be done. Heck, those rigs might even have "run" '98 :p
 

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My dad ran '95 on a 25mhz 486 with 20mb ram in the late nineties. Slow as heck but good enough for him as a glorified typewriter. I also installed it on a friend's 50mhz 486 with 8mb and a monochrome crt, just to prove it could be done. Heck, those rigs might even have "run" '98 :p

I'm speechless! ?
 
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My dad ran '95 on a 25mhz 486 with 20mb ram in the late nineties. Slow as heck but good enough for him as a glorified typewriter. I also installed it on a friend's 50mhz 486 with 8mb and a monochrome crt, just to prove it could be done. Heck, those rigs might even have "run" '98 :p

My 486 ran 95. Played a lot of commander keen, wing commander, & ultima on that box. I want to say I upgraded that box all the way to 98se off my Dads disc (which I still have) but I truly don’t recall any specifics other than being into the jungle theme in the late 90s and had a number of boxes by that time that could’ve produced such a memory.
 

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I also ran Windows ME on a 133mhz 486 :D

IIRC the first time I ran ME was on a Big fat ugly Toshiba laptop. Boy did that thing have an absolute horrid Lcd screen. One of the type that would ghost just by moving the mouse cursor around in normal use. Such a terrible screen.
 
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Amethyst1

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Boy did that thing have an absolute horrid Lcd screen. One of the type that would ghost just by moving the mouse cursor around in normal use.
Passive-matrix screens. Horrible beyond words. Had an el-cheapo laptop with that too at some point and the screen was utterly useless.
 
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I remember the RiscPC and its predecessor - the Archimedes range. They were overshadowed by the Amiga, ST and also the Mac - which was a travesty because the hardware was leagues ahead of Acorn's rivals.
 
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weckart

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Windows 95 on 4 MB RAM? Badass! And what a bargain too!

I remember trying that one and on a Toshiba as well. It was one for the patient but you were rewarded with something like a slide show version of Windows 95. My first 486 came with OS/2 Warp 3 and 4MB of RAM. Same story. You could see the windows and frames being painted line by line as the system wheezed as it tried to get the GUI going. We were a lot more patient back then.
 

Amethyst1

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a slide show version of Windows 95.

qwin95.jpg

'95 on a 386 underclocked to 3 MHz and 4 MB RAM. Oh teh horrorz (not my image). :D
 

weckart

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Its an 80286 like processor or the 80386 was broken.

Not broken but underclocked for a very relaxing computing experience. Windows 2.0 or, strictly speaking, Windows 286 was the last MS OS, which actually required a 286 processor, although it would run on a 386. It also was released in a Windows 386 edition which would not boot on a 286 processor.

'95 on a 386 underclocked to 3 MHz and 4 MB RAM. Oh teh horrorz (not my image).

I wonder if hitting the Turbo button would slow it down further?
 
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Amethyst1

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Its an 80286 like processor or the 80386 was broken.
Good one. 95 doesn't even run on a 286.

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I wonder if hitting the Turbo button would slow it down further?

The machine in question is a laptop, so no Turbo button I'm afraid. Did this button actually underclock the CPU (like the MHz displays on old cases would suggest), or did it do something else like disabling caches?
 
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Did this button actually underclock the CPU (like the MHz displays on old cases would suggest), or did it do something else like disabling caches?

Dropped it to 8MHz for compatibility with some older games IIRR. How it did that, I haven't looked into further as to whether 8MHz was an absolute amount or just a fraction of the current chip speed.
 

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On my very first PC (a 386) the display said 16 with turbo and 8 without but I never really verified this with any benchmarks.
 
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