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compwiz1202

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The number of times this broad generalization has been claimed to occur far exceeds the number of examples I've seen given of it in this thread. Just more persecution complex.
I don't know if I see it here much, but it used to happen a lot on FB
 

gugy

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Apologies, I got terribly confused when you cited case law and yet you're not talking about law but how "things should be".

Anyways, I'm happy to hear you'll make an exception for violence.

But does that mean that misinformation, libel, defamation, fraud, harrassment, and child porn are ok and should be allowed unhindered on all the platforms you mention?
No worries. Glad to know we are on the same page.
 

A MacBook lover

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Most of what Trump says is a lie that serves his purposes, and not evidence of MAGA's hating war.
Here we disagree. Trump criticizes. As people - hate is on both sides, and no side seems to be less hateful.
I think there's more and more independents...


Yeah they do, in every way. Just look at what the senate did with the 2 impeachments of Trump. They wouldn't even take up the case to convict and did everything they could to block it. (and those impeachments articles were valid) And that's just one example -- there are plenty more mundane ways they supported Trump. That may be changing now, and I very much hope it is, but they're all still scum to me until they actually try working for the U.S. again.


At least we agree on one thing. :)


I went the other way, I was republican before switching to independent, but that was a long time ago when they started the massive tax cuts for the rich and "trickle down" theory. I still voted republican until after Bush the II.
Thanks for being respectful and discussing with me !
 
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vikingjunior

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Yes, Apple and most corporations choose to side with the side of the political spectrum that preaches tolerance the loudest, and it's based in leftist ideology.

But for good reasons as a society that tolerates violence and lets intolerance flourish will ultimately succumb to intolerance and persecution:
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How will a business see the biggest possible profits if all the people are fighting and persecuting each other and preaching intolerance? That would be nothing but chaos, suffering, and wars.

Businesses want diverse and tolerant societies, it's what's most profitable.

And a part of keeping societies peaceful is some level of censorship. Without it, all the small minds will eventually conspire and set fire to everything.

Long live censorship!
Since we're doing pictures now let me ask you if this picture from a left-wing ideology company sounds tolerant and diverse?

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bradl

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Since we're doing pictures now let me ask you if this picture from a left-wing ideology company sounds tolerant and diverse?

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The problem that is being shown here is that you - along with everyone else who finds * Lives Matter offensive - is that you assume that <insert color here> Lives Matter means ONLY <insert color here> Lives Matter. That assumption to assume that is wrong on your part, and risky at that, because it also serves to show how close minded one can be regarding <insert color here> Lives Matter.

Additionally, when it comes to the intent behind it, you see where one is having a major problem, while some of the other tends to show bias and hate. Yet you want to put the "left wing ideology company" on blast while not looking at the other movement's motives.

Again, make sure the other yards are clean before complaining about those you don't like.

BL.
 

bobcomer

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You wasted this "gem" here. You should have used that one over on Mastodon, you would have gotten hundreds of likes and re-toots from the hive mind.
Mastodon has toots and retoots??? They could have come up with something better I'm sure!!! I haven't tried it yet...
 

ponzicoinbro

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"World's richest man"

Subsidized by government for years.

Made many false promises to investors about his company roadmaps.

Has to kiss the ring of his Saudi investors.

Has to kiss the ring of China's central bank who he owes billions to.

And when he tries to get cocky with the godfather of the tech industry he has to kiss the ring again.

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bradl

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Precisely right. Trying to smooth things over. I am pretty confident it was Tim that requested this meeting and not the other way around.

Except that pure logic completely destroys your "confidence" in this "meeting".

Twitter is causing him to lose millions per day. It's hemorrhaging money. So if he were this "self made billionaire" as you make him out to be, it should be putting his money into saving the company he bought. Instead, he is going to the well (read: someone else's checkbook) to return some semblance of money to him to stem the hemorrhaging. A Billionaire shouldn't need to do that.

But I digress; everything that goes against your views (no matter how close minded those views of yours may be) is "fan fiction".

BL.
 

teh_hunterer

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No, it doesn't. The constitution as originally written makes no mention of freedom of speech, and universal freedom of speech was arguably granted with the nineteenth amendment in 1920 which extended the right to vote to all Americans of age.

Free speech is a human right that predates all government. Governments can choose to recognise it or not, but they can't provide it.
 

teh_hunterer

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I think you're both confused.

"It sucks, and it is what it is, but that’s why we need a dictatorship. That’s unironically why we need to get rid of all that. We need to take control of the media or take control of the government and force the people to believe what we believe or force them to play by our rules and reshape the society.”

- Nick Fuentes, far-right personality and recent dinner guest of Donald Trump

OK, Nick Fuentes' point of view is completely detestable and antithetical to the values that underpin western society. Totalitarianism is wrong whether it comes from the left or the right.

This doesn't all have to be a power game between left and right. And I think you'll find that if you just let Nick Fuentes speak, he and his ideas will be debated back into oblivion and he will be pushed to the fringes and eventually ignored. Politicians who want any chance of election will have to distance themselves from him and his ideas.

A bad idea suppressed is more powerful than a bad idea debated.
 

ProfessionalFan

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But I digress; everything that goes against your views (no matter how close minded those views of yours may be) is "fan fiction".
Please point to one example where i said “fan fiction” in response to something that was a fact. I’ll wait.

A reminder, something isn’t a fact just because your people say it is. A real fact please.
 
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bradl

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Show me evidence that he isn't a self made billionaire. Go ahead, I'm waiting to see it. How did he become a billionaire, oh wise ones?

He had daddy write him a check. Musk started with only $2000 in the bank for his first "venture", and was given a check by his father to the tune of $20000 to get his venture started.

That is not self made.

BL.
 
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ProfessionalFan

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He had daddy write him a check. Musk started with only $2000 in the bank for his first "venture", and was given a check by his father to the tune of $20000 to get his venture started.

That is not self made.

BL.
Even if this is true (which I have not independently confirmed) your point is that by turning $20000 into hundreds of billions of dollars, he is not a self made billionaire? Interesting take there.

I wonder how many of us could turn 20k into hundreds of billions.
 
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bradl

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Even if this is true (which I have not independently confirmed) your point is that by turning $20000 into hundreds of billions of dollars, he is not a self made billionaire? Interesting take there.

I wonder how many of us could turn 20k into hundreds of billions.

You must not have looked far enough. This was with Zip2, which he started in 1995.



From Wiki:

Global Link Information Network was founded in 1995 by brothers Elon and Kimbal Musk and Greg Kouri in Palo Alto, California with money raised from a small group of angel investors,[7][8][9] plus US$8,000 from Kouri.[10][5] In Ashlee Vance's biography of Elon Musk, it is claimed that the Musks' father, Errol Musk, provided them with US$28,000 during this time,[5]: Ch.4  but Elon Musk later denied this.[7] He later clarified that his dad provided around 10% of US$200,000 as part of a later funding round.[10]

Oh, and it was directly from Musk himself:


Care to do the math?

If someone is a "self made" of anything, they did it with their own hands, with no funding or help from anyone. Musk had a group of venture capitalists start him out, plus a 5-figure check from his dad. That does not make anyone self made.

Oh, that is all in response to:

"Childish brain" of a self made billionaire and world's richest man. Another person writing fan fiction here I see.

My leave is taken.

BL.
 
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