Apparently you’re still completely missing what the issue is. The issue isn’t the availability of apps or developers. The issue is what developers are allowed to make their apps do because of artificial limitations set in place by Apple.
So this is all about Apple at the end of the day. Android doesn't limit. However, being there are alternatives with other handset manufactures, and those that "could" also offer almost like for like compatibility with Android OS apps (Tizen/HaromonyOS). Is still not enough to sway the EU from making any laws to get Apple to open up more. Apple is 1 company with 1 mobile phone and 1 OS. This whole thing started over lack of options, lack of innovation, lack of competition, anti-competitive behavior. The dominant, gatekeeping, wall-gardens. Almost all against Apple's way of doing business. How they do nothing BUT limit everyone else.
Meanwhile we have plenty of choices, and COULD spur more, innovate more, promote more options. But that's not good enough either? That's a waste of time? It's simpler to force Apple to open up and provide what the EU wants and let developers just have at it? When I counter with, just buy another device if you want features your iPhone doesn't. Just use another Android phone with all of what you want on it, and root the thing to do MORE of what you want it to do. Support the companies that make devices and OS's that let you do more with it.
Nope, not good enough. Apple is the problem! They control everything, they dictate this and limit that and we need to make them open so we can all benefit. I say
rubbish. You have choice you can vote with your euro's you can support more open platforms (stop buying the closed ones!), and call on your leaders to fund development and research and provide grants, loans, scholarships, invite the world over to join in the EU developer community start a business there.
Nope, not good enough. Why have a talent pool and promote any kind of tech innovation within the EU? Why do that? Just tell the Sillicon Valley nerds to do what we want. It's better in the long run right? Like China having all the manufacturing of practically EVERYTHING made these days. Like Russia having all the gas that the EU needs to function? Right, just do the same thing to Apple, force them to consider alternative ways to make a euro/buck that doesn't require them to do what the law states. Potentially leaving the EU with 1 or maybe fragmented Android only options.
When it comes back to bite you in the arse then what? What's the plan? What law will get past then?
I brought up the US's proposed CHIPS Act to show what the EU could do. Fund the development of what you seek within the EU. So that you're less dependent on the 1 or few options available. The US doesn't want to see another supply chain issue in regards to CPU's for all the things we need. So, we are funding a solution. To be less or totally independent of China/Taiwan manufacturing. The EU? Makes laws to regulate the only options you have.
This is all about
Apple, and forcing them to be more like Android. So again, when I say what happens if Apple leaves the EU.
Nope they will not, too much money to be made. It's not like the
UK, which now regrets their decision. So what? They are a big country they can make grown up decisions, right or wrong ones. What's stopping Apple from making any decision, right or wrong? They are free to do so. If the value of staying is lowered enough by their standards which can include financial and philosophical, principle, whatever. They can leave. They can still sell watches, AirPods, AppleTV's, mac's, software, and speakers. They could even sell an iPhone running Android. Just like I said about a companies products not all being available just across the boarder. I could buy Wine from a vineyard in both countries (CAN/US), but 1 specific type I can't across the boarder. One product of cookies made by the same company that sells in both countries. I can't get just 1 of these things across the boarder. Everything else, I can get. This could be no different.
How does giving a developer a bunch of money fix the issue with not being allowed to do certain things with their app or access NFC because of Apple?
Because Apple isn't the only choice. They have customers yes, and developers want access to those customers yes? So you comply with it or you don't. Here is some money to build something new, or to diversify where your applications/programs work on. Don't like Apple's limitations? Well, we understand its hard to develop for multiple OS's, but if your willing to try it. The EU is here to help you fund it.
If Apple was 60-70% of the market, I'd maybe agree with you more on this. Maybe. If Apple had started open and then took it away, changed the rules to be more controlling, or charged more overtime for no good reason (I think increasing prices due to inflation is a good reason, or if CODB cost of doing business increased, that too is a good reason to increase pricing). I'd be more in your camp on this. But none of this have they done. No 180 degree position changes, no unfair or unreasonable price increases. They have been exactly what they have been.
And being that Apple "is" an alternative to Android, as a consumer you have a choice. Pick it or pick something else. As a developer you have a choice. Program for it, or something else. If Apple doesn't have developers developing for it, the product WILL change to accommodate what the people (as you and others claim) want. If EPIC had just walked away from Apple vs trying to pull a fast one. Maybe others would have too. And Apple would have changed to accommodate or listened more, etc.
As long as Apple can put up artificial barriers for devs, throwing a bunch of money at them won’t fix anything in that regard.
Again, not seeing my point. But, I'll agree to disagree.
You see barriers, and I see opportunity.
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