I suppose it can depend on how one wants to classify a "technology" company but SAP, Accenture, ASML, Prosus, and Siemens would be some of the larger EU tech companies.
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I suppose it can depend on how one wants to classify a "technology" company but SAP, Accenture, ASML, Prosus, and Siemens would be some of the larger EU tech companies.
Its hard because that technology does not exist in that form factor. Its just a bureaucrat with a degree in policy grievance studies thinking....of course they can do better they just dont want to because they dont understand anything about engineering tradeoffs.
The solution to needing to replace everyones batteries is that EU phones will cost 10-15% more. Thats the part thats "not really that hard".
Doesn't the EU already require car manufacturers to have parts available for a lot longer than the five years being proposed here?
As I recall, the YUgo legislature got their panties in a wad when Apple, through software, slowed their iPhones when their battery function reached a lower level. They did this to preserve battery life, but they didn't tell the public.
So a simple update in iOS/iPadOS that also will not let you charge your battery past 80% and no fast charging for YUgo phones only and Bing-Badda-Boom problem fixed.
So a simple update in iOS/iPadOS that also will not let you charge your battery past 80% and no fast charging for YUgo phones only and Bing-Badda-Boom problem fixed.
"It's not just Apple of course but we really need better battery technology and more efficient chips/software. Apple and Google have control over iOS/Android so they could be doing a lot more to make it more efficient."Apple right now
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To be fair I'm quite happy with the battery life on my iPhone but I know a lot of people and have seen a **** load of reports online of people having ****** battery life. It's not just Apple of course but we really need better battery technology and more efficient chips/software. Apple and Google have control over iOS/Android so they could be doing a lot more to make it more efficient.
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Why are British companies excluded? Brexit wasn't that long ago, and the UK still has quite a lot of EU legislation on its books.
You've never heard of Nikon and Canon, have you?
Also, Zeiss is NOT limited to Germany. From their website:
With over 35,000 employees, ZEISS is active globally in almost 50 countries with around 30 production sites, 60 sales and service companies and 27 research and development facilities.
So, perhaps you need to brush up your Knowledge/Data base.
The EU doing what lobbyist in the US has kept at bay for decades.
Good job.
Good job.
Again, what are you insinuating with the tone of these comments? It's hard to read on the internet...
Saying ARM does not count as EU is completely asinine, it's British yes, but that only recently means non-EU, certainly not relevant in the grand scheme of things as ARM was founded and developed while the United Kingdom was EU.
It would not have been too hard for Apple to develop their version of a FairPhone. Provide it as an optional model for folks who want to make tradeoffs to help save Mother Earth. Instead Tim & Co. get the benefit of nearly $1 Trillion in stock buy backs these last few years (almost $100 Billion last quarter I think). The need for a FairPhone option has been there for a long time, but billionaires going to billionize.
These statements are so common on the internet and so ridiculous. How do you know how difficult these tradeoffs and costs are? How do you know how much money they would make or lose? This is the kind of thinking which politicians do..."its not going to be too hard for that waitress mother of 3 to work the extra shifts to pay the taxes so we can forgive that Harvard law grads student loans"....
Zeiss is Germany based. That is what counts here
No they don’t. They still do the John Deere tactic of blocking certain chip components repair shops use for sodder repairs. Hell a lot of parts are still under lockdown.
BMW is also "Germany Based" but most of their SUVs are built in South Carolina, USA.
Do you have a real point?
Its still a German company. Apple is not manufacturing their iPhones in the US either. With that logic, Apple is just as much as a Chinese company as BMW. My cousin works for Daimler at the headquarter in Stuttgart, Germany. If the US office messes up, she literally flies there to kick their asses (figuratively speaking), if the factories in Mexico get a new contract, the German engineers fly over there to teach them how to XY.
I also work for the HQ of a company, located in Germany. We have subdivisions across Europe but it is still a German company. For example, I am not even a Head Of but if the "Head of XY in Italy" has another "stupid" idea, I can still tell them "no" (even though I am not even a Head of) simply because I work at the HQ and that automatically gives me more "power" because at the end of the day, they all work "for us"
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One question is: What qualifies as a phone? Does a watch that can make calls? Only if it is independently capable of calling? A tablet with cellular service?
I doubt it. The onus is likely to be on the importer to maintain the repair stock, increasing the revenue to the OEM. In addition, unless some turnaround time is specified you might face a long wait to actually get the repair part.
The EU will have to define "500 Full Charges" or else you will have a wide range of interpretations.
Not unreasonable.
Exactly. Does this mean for 3 years you can only new functionality if they are backwards compatible? When does teh clock start? Date of introduction? Last sold? In the latter, you could run a situation where a phone design is over 5 years old and the new feature seriously degrades performance. Clearly hardware dependent features have to be excluded to avoid such situations.
While Volvo certainly introduced and refined a lot of safety features; I wouldn't credit them with inventing automotive safety technology; at least not in the sense that they created whole new tech rather than improving existing and incorporating it. Many other manufacturers created safety features that are standard today; and some had their genesis in racing and aviation as well. For example, Nash offered seat belts as an option in 1949; Volvo improved seat belt design to come up with the revolutionary 3 point belt and made seat belts standard 10 years later. Crumple zones were invented by a Hungarian engineer who refined the idea at MB. Safety glass was invented by a French Chemist. Car safety technology is the result of a lot of companies innovations.
Even then, Volvo pulled some shady stuff to be known as the safety car company, such as reinforcing its cars roofs so they won't collapse when driven over by a monster truck while cutting pillars on competitors cars so the roofs collapse.
That plant is also the largest BMW Group plant in the world, producing more than 1,500 vehicles each day.
I doubt it. The onus is likely to be on the importer to maintain the repair stock, increasing the revenue to the OEM. In addition, unless some turnaround time is specified you might face a long wait to actually get the repair part.
The EU will have to define "500 Full Charges" or else you will have a wide range of interpretations.
Not unreasonable.
Exactly. Does this mean for 3 years you can only new functionality if they are backwards compatible? When does teh clock start? Date of introduction? Last sold? In the latter, you could run a situation where a phone design is over 5 years old and the new feature seriously degrades performance. Clearly hardware dependent features have to be excluded to avoid such situations.
While Volvo certainly introduced and refined a lot of safety features; I wouldn't credit them with inventing automotive safety technology; at least not in the sense that they created whole new tech rather than improving existing and incorporating it. Many other manufacturers created safety features that are standard today; and some had their genesis in racing and aviation as well. For example, Nash offered seat belts as an option in 1949; Volvo improved seat belt design to come up with the revolutionary 3 point belt and made seat belts standard 10 years later. Crumple zones were invented by a Hungarian engineer who refined the idea at MB. Safety glass was invented by a French Chemist. Car safety technology is the result of a lot of companies innovations.
Even then, Volvo pulled some shady stuff to be known as the safety car company, such as reinforcing its cars roofs so they won't collapse when driven over by a monster truck while cutting pillars on competitors cars so the roofs collapse.
That plant is also the largest BMW Group plant in the world, producing more than 1,500 vehicles each day.
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Exactly. All large corps have international hq's and manufacturing facilities. This is getting absurd.
I assumed "provide parts" only meant that they had to be available in some way for at least five years, even if only by servicing through manufacturer or manufacturer authorized repair facility. Not necessarily for DIY or independent shop repairs.
The EU is overly focused on regulations and is incapable of producing world-leading technology companies, especially in the consumer space.
Is that simple enough for you?
Are you really going to list BMW as one of your picks for EU Top 5 technology companies?
A lot of negativity here about EU lawmaking. Generally, I don't like much of what they do, but I fail to see the downside. Having devices last longer, by enabling spare parts and a right to repair, and ensuring technologies or software are developed to eke the most out of a battery - they're all good things. We gotta look after the resources of the planet and this is just another one small tiny part of that. I know most of us on here love to get the latest and greatest bit of kit whenever we can, but that's probably a minority position. Most people want long lasting kit. Goodness knows the planet needs that.
One of the best comments I’ve read. Thank you for speaking so clearly.
Instead of arguing on the merit of this proposal your post basically boils down to “government bad”. Providing repair parts and ensuring that phone batteries last at least 500 cycles before they drop to 83% are both things that are very possible today.
Of course Zeiss is a global company. But Zeiss originated from and is still a German company. So there is no need to brush something up.
Also Zeiss is the only company to deliver the lenses for the EUV lithography of ASML.
Zeiss mirror system around 5:40
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Because these two didn’t want to take the big risk back then ASML has a monopoly on EUV technology which is required for the lowest-nm chips TSMC makes. I am quite confident the world of computing, no the entire world, would look quite different today if ASML hadn’t taken a gamble on EUV.
There’s no shame in admitting that Europeans aren’t stupid and indeed are quite capable in terms of innovation. After all your ancestors were most likely Europeans too (if you are from the US).
PS: BioNTech, a German company, has earned so much from their revolutionary vaccine that the city of Mainz, where their headquarters lie, earned so much taxes from them that they could pay off all debts and still have a lot left over.