Asked and answered several times in this thread already.But, like, how did it take them this long?
iPhone 12 has been out for 3 years now.
That was my favorite part of the event!Mother Nature
You get more actual ionizing radiation (the kind that actually damages) from a banana.Good for France and the EU!
Glad to see some governments and regulators are now taking this threat seriously. One thing we've learned over the decades is that government safety thresholds are typically set too high — often due to lobbying by corporate interests — and, over time, as scientists discover that there are cancerous effects at even lower levels, the thresholds are reduced.
In other words, just because a cell phone's radiation is less than a current threshold doesn’t mean it's safe. In this case, they've found the iPhone 12's radiation is higher than a likely too high standard. That's concerning.
I took a gander at the WHO site linked to in the article — and its supposedly glowing, cell phones are safe conclusion. Major problems.
1. The report is from 2014! It's nearly a decade old—quite outdated.
2. One of the top key facts highlighted — in bold — at the top of the report was this:
So, even back then, there was a recognition that negative health effects were an issue.
- “The electromagnetic fields produced by mobile phones are classified by the International Agency for Research on Cancer as possibly carcinogenic to humans.”
3. WHO planned a follow-up report for 2016. Where is that and why wasn't it the one being reported on?
4. The CDC reports
”Some organizations recommend caution in cell phone use. More research is needed before we know if using cell phones causes health effects.”
CDC - Radiation: FAQs about Cell Phones and Your Health
Frequently asked questions about cell phones and your health. Provided by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.www.cdc.gov
5. Some public health experts are warning of the dangers.
See Moskowitz: Cellphone radiation is harmful, but few want to believe it
Moskowitz: Cellphone radiation is harmful, but few want to believe it
The vast majority of American adults — 97% — own a cellphone of some kind, according to the Pew Research Center . (Photo by Susanne Nilsson via Flickr) For more than a decade, Joel Moskowitz , a researcher in the School of Public Health at UC Berkeley ...news.berkeley.edu
6. In the U.S., it's not the FDA that sets the radiation levels or limits but the incredibly politicized FCC.
In 2020, the FDA reported favorably yet with the usual hedges:
“To date, there is no consistent or credible scientific evidence of health problems caused by the exposure to radio frequency energy emitted by cell phones (see Review of Published Literature between 2008 and 2018 of Relevance to Radiofrequency Radiation and Cancer)”
That, too, however, is based on outdated research — 2008-2018.
Cell phone use has skyrocketed in recent years — with people spending more hours with them — meaning the radiation impact is now more severe and not captured by older studies. We also know that cancerous effects can take decades to manifest themselves.
Thus, it is far too early to be dismissive of the potentially serious effects of cellphone use or to take a head-in-the-sand Alfred E. Neuman stance on this,
”What, Me Worry?”
I think we need to stop using the term “radiation” because people can’t tell the difference between radioactivity and EM fields.I hate to break it to you but unless you live in the middle of nowhere your being bombarded by cellphone radiation all the time whether you use it for phone calls or not.
You would think Apple is aware of this and would make sure any updates to the modem wouldn’t increase emissions to go above the limit.I'm French and French media told us that this issue applied only for iPhone 12. 12 mini, 12 Pro and 12 PM are not concerned by this issue. source: https://www.igen.fr/iphone/2023/09/...-linterdiction-de-liphone-12-en-france-139299
Moreover the emission was fine at launch for EU standard (<4W/kg) but when ANFR did again the test 3 years later, the emission measure was increased to 5.7W/kg. According to many experts, you need to reach 40W/kg before having realistic health risk.
If the test is valid, Apple would be forced to push a software update to reduce emissions - which is easily feasible as this is how the emission has increased over time - but it may reduce modem performance.
None of that means that RF is dangerous. Nor does it mean that Homeopathy and related practices isn't quackery.
It’s the same garbage nonsense that have people thinking microwaves are irradiating them.No, the reason everyone says there is no problem with mobile phone radiation is because its wavelength is not short enough for photons to have enough energy to ionize biological tissues, regardless of power output.
That's illogical. It's not like you immediately see the effects of minor (but harmful) levels of radiation.So... France orders the end of sales of a product launched in... 2020?
Thumbs up for their reactivity.
I'm sure something undetected for 3 years is probably just fine.
France says the radiation exceeds safe levels. Do you have evidence to contradict that?You're appealing to logic? While claiming the "radiation" levels of the iPhone are harmful?
iPhone & all of apples products have always had dangerous radiation leveles that cause reproductive issues & cancers. They just don’t careWell this is concerning.
I thought it’d be logical to think Apple’s testing found levels way below the radiation threshold of any nation?
If the 12 had 5.74 watts per kilogram, then what’s in my 13!..
Facts! Cellphone radiation ☢️ like microwaves are both Extremely Dangerous &&& should not be used in consumer products.iPhones have always had a many times higher SAR rating compared to other manufacturers like Samsung which is interesting. But I'm surprised to see it went so high considering that they're tested before release and SAR ratings were already out?
There's a lot of misinformation out there, people panicking about 5-6 watts of radiation, when there's a lot more radiation already in the air. Some people should start by cleaning the door and seals of their microwave ovens. That's a great risk that's being ignored nowadays. Or maybe they don't have microwave ovens...No, the reason everyone says there is no problem with mobile phone radiation is because its wavelength is not short enough for photons to have enough energy to ionize biological tissues, regardless of power output.
HELP!!! We are turning into mutants!Raise the pitchforks because... RADIATION!!!!!!
That Mother Nature really had an attitude... if she is for real, we could consider ourselves already doomed!That was my favorite part of the event!
Actually the limit is 4 per TFA, so a little less than 50%. I suspect if it went up over time a software fix may be likely.That's three times the legal limit.
I am wondering if Apple is the only brand concerning this problem. And if so, why only the iPhone 12? 13 and up not having this issue?
Maybe it was a feature. You can also use your iPhone 12 as a microwave to warm your ears 😂The French are using a dumb method for measuring radiation. There's more radiation coming out of our grandmother's television.
Nonsense. As I recall, Apple pointed out that USB-C had emerged as a common standard, not that they invented it. I don't know where you got that idea from.Yesterday Apple was touting the switch to USB C as some magical idea they came up with when in reality they have to comply with the new EU regulations that will come into effect next year.
As an ex 12 years experience test operator, repair tech and test engineer for a major mobile manufacturer back in the 90's I have personal first hand experience of mobile phone radiation and it is real and it does affect people, I've seen it happen to employees who tested mobile phones 5 days a week for years, testing anywhere from 30 to 50 units a day, full on two way comms test at full power. Regardless of what the so called science says or how ever it is put forward it will never change my view.No, the reason everyone says there is no problem with mobile phone radiation is because its wavelength is not short enough for photons to have enough energy to ionize biological tissues, regardless of power output.
France says the radiation exceeds safe levels. Do you have evidence to contradict that?