iPad iPadOS 14 Wishlist

[boston04and07]

Aside from the pointer being a stupid circle, I really haven’t felt limited by the mouse on iPadOS. When you say “actual“ mouse support, can you give me some examples?

For me, this means full support for the Magic Mouse 2 and the Magic Trackpad 2. Not being able to scroll with gestures just feels wrong. I’m sure others have their own wishlists though. But I agree that other than that, mouse support as it is is pretty good so far. (For me at least).

 

[ericwn]

Not sure what you mean here. Picture-in-Picture I believe is on an app by app basis. YouTube wants your money, so they let you watch, but you have to pay for PNP.

It‘s not a crappy user experience for folks that need it for accessibility, which is what it’s meant for. If you’ve lost the motor skills or ability to touch a screen, mouse support allows you to use the device.

It’s not meant to bring desktop mouse usability to the iPad, and it’s not likely to ever be that.

My point was that more mouse options would not ruin the iPad experience as experience is what Apple like to focus on. I know it’s currently an accessibility feature and what it’s meant for.
Nobody can say for sure if this gets further expanded or not. Given that iPadOS device easily outsold Macs for years I think we all know which platform they’ll work on first.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

Given that iPadOS device easily outsold Macs for years I think we all know which platform they’ll work on first.

Yes, and for almost ALL of that time, it sold that well without more robust mouse support. You’re right, it’s just my opinion, but I don’t think they ever intend for iPadOS to be a place where people who prefer mouse to touch to feel completely comfortable.

 

[subjonas]

Given that iPadOS device easily outsold Macs for years I think we all know which platform they’ll work on first.

Just curious, outsold in number of devices or revenue?

 

[Unregistered 4U]

Just curious, outsold in number of devices or revenue?

Number of devices sold. If you added up all the laptops made by all the major laptop vendors, the iPad sells more. That’s a HUGE number of devices.

 

[subjonas]

Number of devices sold. If you added up all the laptops made by all the major laptop vendors, the iPad sells more. That’s a HUGE number of devices.

That is a lot, sure, but in this context, I think revenue would be more pertinent.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

That is a lot, sure, but in this context, I think revenue would be more pertinent.

Sure, revenue is relevant as well, but that also points to the iPad. That large number of iPad customers likely factors into a big chunk of of the services revenue, far more so than macOS (more customers, more subscriptions).

 

[subjonas]

Sure, revenue is relevant as well, but that also points to the iPad. That large number of iPad customers likely factors into a big chunk of of the services revenue, far more so than macOS (more customers, more subscriptions).

I think revenue is what’s ultimately relevant here. I was curious just about direct revenue figures, but I agree it’s also about associated services. But I’m curious to know the actual numbers regarding that.

 

[sparksd]

I think revenue is what’s ultimately relevant here. I was curious just about direct revenue figures, but I agree it’s also about associated services. But I’m curious to know the actual numbers regarding that.

See this -

Apple sales revenue share by product 2012-2024 | Statista

Apple’s iPhone sales accounted for over 58 percent of the company’s overall revenue in the first quarter of fiscal year 2024, the largest share of all Apple products.

www.statista.com

 

[subjonas]

See this -

Apple sales revenue share by product 2012-2024 | Statista

Apple’s iPhone sales accounted for over 58 percent of the company’s overall revenue in the first quarter of fiscal year 2024, the largest share of all Apple products.

www.statista.com

Thanks for that.
It looks like the revenue for macs and ipads have been pretty similar for awhile now, with services revenue growing as big as both combined. But obviously, this data doesn’t show which devices lead to more services revenue. That would be more complicated data to show, since people own multiple devices. I’d assume ipads are the bigger contributors, having significantly more numbers of devices out there, but by how much is anyone’s guess.

 

[sparksd]

Thanks for that.
It looks like the revenue for macs and ipads have been pretty similar for awhile now, with services revenue growing as big as both combined. But obviously, this data doesn’t show which devices lead to more services revenue. That would be more complicated data to show, since people own multiple devices. I’d assume ipads are the bigger contributors, having significantly more numbers of devices out there, but by how much is anyone’s guess.

My guess is that the iPhone side swamps both out wrt leading to services revenue.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

My guess is that the iPhone side swamps both out wrt leading to services revenue.

I would agree and say that number 2 would have to be the iPad for the reason subjonas stated, there’s just so many more of them out there.

 

[sparksd]

I would agree and say that number 2 would have to be the iPad for the reason subjonas stated, there’s just so many more of them out there.

And as a (generally) mobile platform, the iPad users are more likely to partake of services than laptop/desktop users.

 

[MBX]

File app:

- „open with“ via long press on files and then able to select an app of choice.

- File extensions (i.e.: .pdf, .mp4, etc) visible at all times option. I‘m not sure if this can be done already via settings? But I haven‘t found it.

 

[MBX]

- Shutting iPad down and Restarting options integrated in the swipe-down buttons (where the brightness and volume sliders are). So we don't have to hold 2 physical buttons to do so. And there's no restarting option at the moment.

 

[iPadified]

Sidecar to connect two iPads.

 

[MBX]

App expose needs to be fixed: it’s way too unreliable now. Half of the time it doesn’t work when you swipe up from bottom or do the pinch hand gesture, really annoying.

Also the iOS keyboard auto correction needs to get way better.

 

[return2sendai]

Screen Time as a separate app.
Easy movie playback of multiple formats so I don’t have to convert everything to mp4 or resort to 3rd party apps
E2E mail encryption, viz Proton
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And...
A Smart Cover

 

[urkel]

Not sure what you mean here. Picture-in-Picture I believe is on an app by app basis. YouTube wants your money, so they let you watch, but you have to pay for PNP.

I only recently realized that Free YouTube PiP works through the website on Safari.

- Play video on Youtube.com
- Click Fullscreen Icon (Bottom right on video)
- Click PiP icon (Upper Left)

I lose a few app functions but now I have YouTube running PiP over anything I work on just like a “real” computer.

 

[pdoherty]

I want a generic folder locally on the iPad, accessible from the Files app, where I can move things and the be able to access them from any app. Heck, DropBox is doing better at this than the native Files ap. But I don’t want to pay for more DropBox space and would rather use the storage I already paid for locally on my iPad.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

I want a generic folder locally on the iPad, accessible from the Files app, where I can move things and the be able to access them from any app. Heck, DropBox is doing better at this than the native Files ap. But I don’t want to pay for more DropBox space and would rather use the storage I already paid for locally on my iPad.

What are you trying to do? I produce music using the NOISE app, then I can open GarageBand, go into the NOISE app’s folder and pull the loops from there. My only limitation that I’ve noticed is whether or not the app in question expects or utilizes the media type that you’re trying to consume.

 

[iRaynor SK]

I have read it now. But I think there's nothing right now where you actually can't do stuff on the newest iPad Pros or even lose your progress because of too little RAM. Am I right?

For example very big PSD files in Affinity Photo may be challenging for its 4 GB of RAM.

 

[MandiMac]

For example very big PSD files in Affinity Photo may be challenging for its 4 GB of RAM.

Challenging, yes. But it does work, even if the iPad has to page out some things. I think a normal user should not even know the difference between RAM and a pagefile...

 

[pdoherty]

What are you trying to do? I produce music using the NOISE app, then I can open GarageBand, go into the NOISE app’s folder and pull the loops from there. My only limitation that I’ve noticed is whether or not the app in question expects or utilizes the media type that you’re trying to consume.

The only folders in Files that exist belong to the apps that created them. I want to be able to create a generic one called anything I like and use it, not have to mispurpose one created for another app.

 

[sparksd]

I want a generic folder locally on the iPad, accessible from the Files app, where I can move things and the be able to access them from any app. Heck, DropBox is doing better at this than the native Files ap. But I don’t want to pay for more DropBox space and would rather use the storage I already paid for locally on my iPad.

Have you considered a 3rd party file manager app like FileBrowser or FileExplorer? I use FileBrowser for Business and like it, it can now access attached external storage.