To be honest, I don’t know how much of an upgrade the se plus would be if it keeps 3gb of ram. From what I know (which is limited), ram is what ends up causing a phone to run slow. The a13 is no doubt faster than the a11, but if the plus has 3gb of ram like the 8+, I don’t know how much of a real world difference we will see. I can’t imagine them not letting the 8+ get a new iOS update, while letting the se plus get it. Maybe I’m way off, though.
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iPhone SE (2016) iPhone SE Plus Discussion Thread
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What you’re asking is something that could easily change tomorrow. Apple is in a position where they don’t have to produce a phone if the future requirements change course due to other delays with Apple products.
Seriously though, look at the AirPower for example (Even though this isn’t entirely relevant to the SE). The AirPower was officially announced, all it took was one hardware fault that couldn’t make it past the R&D phase with overlapping coils overheating, and Apple completely scrapped it. Apple is a company out to make money, but they’re not afraid to make removal of the product if it doesn’t fit in their future timeline.
Do you think the se plus will ever see the light of day? I’m 50/50 on it now
I’d say there’s a strong chance it could be a possibility. If it does happen, it would be this time next year at the latest. But as I mentioned, there’s so much that can change between now and then, anything could happen. But I could see Apple having a staggered release with a ‘Plus model’ coming 2021.
Mark Gurman believes there will be two new low-cost LCD iPhones for 2021:
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This helps explain why 9to5Mac reported that iOS 14 has code for SE2 Plus with a Home button. Kuo reported the Touch ID on side button device was a full-screen device (no Home button). These are two different SE-class devices.
As I suggested earlier, this is strong indication Apple is trying to get into emerging markets like India. Right now, Apple has no chance given a Xiaomi Mi A3 sells for $169 and comes with 6.1" OLED, in-display fingerprint, and triple rear-camera.
- 5.5" with A13 that looks like iPhone 8 Plus
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This helps explain why 9to5Mac reported that iOS 14 has code for SE2 Plus with a Home button. Kuo reported the Touch ID on side button device was a full-screen device (no Home button). These are two different SE-class devices.
As I suggested earlier, this is strong indication Apple is trying to get into emerging markets like India. Right now, Apple has no chance given a Xiaomi Mi A3 sells for $169 and comes with 6.1" OLED, in-display fingerprint, and triple rear-camera.
The idea of the SE to Apple is that they can recycle existing parts to offer a “new” phone at a low price with only minimal R&D required. The 2020 SE is basically the iPhone 8 chassis with an update processor and camera module and 3D Touch removed.
iPhone SE Plus Postponed Until Second Half of 2021
Apple may postpone a larger version of the new low-cost iPhone SE until the second half of 2021, according to Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo. In a...www.macrumors.com
“We predicted that Apple would launch the new iPhone model in 1H21 in a previous report ("iPhone supply chain to be 2020 top pick in the tech sector; key predictions for new iPhone product mixes in 2020 and 2021" [December 5, 2019]). However, we think that Apple will likely postpone the new model from 1H21 to 2H21.”
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Now this rumor is describing an entirely new phone design. If this phone ever materializes, I doubt it will be as affordable as either iteration of the SE so far.
I wonder if the alleged 6.1” se plus will use the same screen as the xr/11. I don’t see why it wouldn’t. Could be an issue to me, as the 11 gave me (and others) unexpected eye strain and headaches.
After watching several reviews today for the SE, I am finally off the fence on it. The looks of the phone are fine to me. I don’t care about the bezels or the fact it could pass for a 6 year old phone from 5 feet away. But seeing people holding it in their hands just shows how small it is. I have a hard time putting in text on my wife’s 11 pro, and the se is even smaller than that. I have only ever owned bigger iPhones (8+, xs max and 11). I like the idea of something new, but I think it would be a huge pain for me to use the se because I text a lot and am used to the wide keyboard. In the week or so that I had my 11, even that took some time to get used to the fact it was slightly more narrow. I’m 100% all in on the se plus. Just sucks because I have the itch for something new, even though the 8+ does what I need.
No one can tell you that. No product is 100% until it's officially announced. And even then, some never make it to consumers, like AirPower.
Same thing for me. The SE is definitely really interesting, and I’d honestly consider getting it if the battery was 11/11 Pro level. As it is now, I can’t justify going to a smaller screen AND a smaller battery, it’s just not worth it. I was really hoping the SE Plus would be released sooner than later, but that doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen. On the bright side, like you mentioned, the 8+ is a perfectly serviceable option until the SE Plus *does* release.
Let me tell you, my iPhone 8+ in space gray is my ‘daily driver’ for my work phone. And this thing is impeccable. And when I use the word impeccable, I mean in the sense that it has zero hardware issues, as Apple finally tweaked any previous faults with the previous models, and it has True tone/wireless charging/stereo speakers and the ‘dual camera‘ will still suffice.
Realistically, I can upgrade my work phone anytime I want, but I refuse, because it really is that solid of a phone.
what I would do if I were you, opt for the iPhone 8 Plus, and if the SE Plus does launch, then you can also sell/trade your 8+. And if the SE Plus does not launch [Id say by this time next year at the latest], then you still have a solid phone with 8+, so it’s a win-win situation either way.
Even Apple doesn't emphasize the "pocketable" size. Not sure where you're getting that.
Apple's byline is "The Most Affordable iPhone Features A13 Bionic, the Fastest Chip in a Smartphone, and the Best Single-Camera System in an iPhone."
Snap. I gotta order a phone this coming week and it's going to be SE 2020 or 11 reluctantly. ?♂️?
In that case, I’d go 11 without a doubt. I liked my 11, but it somehow gave me unexplained headaches. I got to return it for free, so no loss. Do you have experience with small phones? Even the 11 feels smaller than the plus, and the se is obviously way smaller.
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I know the phone is too small for me, but I have the itch for something newWhat is it that you need help with? Mine arrives tomorrow.
Snap. I gotta order a phone this coming week and it's going to be SE 2020 or 11 reluctantly.
Order both and return the one you don’t like. Apple will allow you to use the device to test it out, as long as it’s not damaged it’s a hassle free return.
Let me rephrase: If we would get an iPhone SE Plus now that does almost exactly the same like an iPhone 11, costs more than an iPhone SE and less than the iPhone 11 - which problem would that solve?
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Then the 11 is it for you - or the 11 Pro, depending on your budget. I‘m going for SE because I‘m coming from a 8+ and wanted to go smaller for quite some time
Pro gave me headaches and somehow the 11 did also. No issues with 8+Let me rephrase: If we would get an iPhone SE Plus now that does almost exactly the same like an iPhone 11, costs more than an iPhone SE and less than the iPhone 11 - which problem would that solve?
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Then the 11 is it for you - or the 11 Pro, depending on your budget. I‘m going for SE because I‘m coming from a 8+ and wanted to go smaller for quite some time
But the 11 has no OLED screen. Did you try turning off Face ID when you tried the 11? I read somewhere that some people can‘t stand the infrared light, but I‘m not affected personally.
So basically you want a bigger, newer iPhone, but can‘t because they will cause you issues. Do I get that right?
The SE2 Plus would solve Apple's problem of decreasing margins. Right now, there is a gap between $399 and $599. The XR launched at $749 and is expected to drop to $499 in September. A $499 SE2 Plus helps both Apple and consumers. Keep in the mind the global ASP for smartphones is between $300 to $400.
Not really sure I follow. How could the ASP for Apple smartphones be that low if they had no iPhone in that price category? Right, you‘re throwing all Android makers in the mix that are barely making any money out of that business. And still we do not know how a bigger iPhone SE Plus would be marketed at - like the iPhone SE, just bigger? Reviewers are knocking the „old“ design everywhere, I can‘t see Apple possibly throwing another Touch ID design with 5.5 inches out there.