That´s what the setting is for in OCLP:Has anyone tried booting a MacBook Pro 2014 without a battery on Sonoma? is it possible to? Can it run at full speed ? (Or any MacBook without battery?)
That´s what the setting is for in OCLP:
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Done a it a few times on a 2012 rMBP for various reasons. It will semi-work but lack the proper current to do certain things that the battery is needed for regardless. So maybe not usable for anything "serious". If you are reluctant to buy a battery for some reason, borrow one for tests you may need? But it should boot.Has anyone tried booting a MacBook Pro 2014 without a battery on Sonoma? is it possible to? Can it run at full speed ? (Or any MacBook without battery?)
I've had about 7 responses to my original question and (unless I've missed the point somehow) none have so much as mentioned the issue let alone any answer; there seems to be three types of updates; System/Firmware and Security with some overlap, you seem to have clearly confirmed what I already understood i.e. that an OCLP OS cannot get firmware updates so checking it seems to be of no value. I just went into Settings/updates and discovered that settings had altered; I certainly had them all on off except for the first one; my original query was about the last one but now it seems that these options are only for finger exercising - unless I had them set in safe mode and they somehow revert; anyway this is now bigger question than my original one and raises another question: should I just pay for Win11 and abandon this bizarre "Alice in Wonderland" Apple/OCLP combo?@iMac'd There are software updates (what you're used to seeing) and also firmware updates (lower level software that directly controls hardware). Neither should be auto-updated when running OCLP in case there is an incompatibility between the update and OCLP. Best to wait until the developers (or other users) have verified nothing breaks before installing an update.
Software updates: macOS 14.4.1, security updates, etc
Firmware updates: machine dependent and only available when running a supported OS for that machine
SilentKnight is a good tool that will tell you about the latest software updates and also tell you if your firmware isn't running the latest version.
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Skint – a watchful eye on security settings Updated! Checks key security settings and features including SIP, SSV, Gatekeeper, XProtect, XProtect Remediator and macOS security updates. Runs a…eclecticlight.co
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Safest to leave the last option turned off as well and manually install those updates.I've had about 7 responses to my original question and (unless I've missed the point somehow) none have so much as mentioned the issue let alone any answer; there seems to be three types of updates; System/Firmware and Security with some overlap, you seem to have clearly confirmed what I already understood i.e. that an OCLP OS cannot get firmware updates so checking it seems to be of no value. I just went into Settings/updates and discovered that settings had altered; I certainly had them all on off except for the first one; my original query was about the last one but now it seems that these options are only for finger exercising - unless I had them set in safe mode and they somehow revert; anyway this is now bigger question than my original one and raises another question: should I just pay for Win11 and abandon this bizarre "Alice in Wonderland" Apple/OCLP combo? View attachment 2375000
Toggle this off – or you will get problems earlier or later!I've had about 7 responses to my original question and (unless I've missed the point somehow) none have so much as mentioned the issue let alone any answer; there seems to be three types of updates; System/Firmware and Security with some overlap, you seem to have clearly confirmed what I already understood i.e. that an OCLP OS cannot get firmware updates so checking it seems to be of no value. I just went into Settings/updates and discovered that settings had altered; I certainly had them all on off except for the first one; my original query was about the last one but now it seems that these options are only for finger exercising - unless I had them set in safe mode and they somehow revert; anyway this is now bigger question than my original one and raises another question: should I just pay for Win11 and abandon this bizarre "Alice in Wonderland" Apple/OCLP combo? View attachment 2375000
I had it off but it seemed to get turned on by some unknown entity/programme; it's remained off for one day. Don't updates requiring patches automatically produce a notification from OCLP? (I left a device for hours after an update and there was none but this may be time related). I had the bottom setting on for months and never got any prompt; so what you are implying is that they will or may lead to instability and best to wait for them to be included in the "normal" updates?Toggle this off – or you will get problems earlier or later!
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That's what I've concluded but it's basically only guessing; it's more prudent regarding OCLP and less so for security but I suppose security is around 99% user carefulness - but then I don't know what protection has been used with these apparently near daily "updates".Safest to leave the last option turned off as well and manually install those updates.
About background updates in macOS - Apple Support
Your Mac automatically installs Rapid Security Responses, security-configuration updates, and system data files in the background.support.apple.com
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About the "Install system data files and security updates" checkbox in App Store prefs
Check your settings in the App Store System Preference Pane. By default Install macOS updates is not checked. If you checked it and now do not want the updates to install automatically, uncheck it. Do not uncheck “Install system data files and security updates”, this should always be enabled.talk.tidbits.com
Same here. Fans were running riot on the last beta here and now appear to stay quiet again. For now at least.Updated rMBP10,1 2012 OTA from last beta to 14.5 RC, OCLP 1.5.0n, no issues detected yet.
"Fan riot" here with the last beta also. Likewise, too early to know if it's fixed.Same here. Fans were running riot on the last beta here and now appear to stay quiet again. For now at least.
Were there any updates issue under item 2.Hello there! Been reading this thread for months.
I have iMac 27" Late 2015 and Mac Pro 2013 running with OCLP 1.2.1 and Sonoma 14.1. Here are some issues I faced:
1) Upgraded from Ventura 13.5 to 14.0 and noticed that both macs got missing model name and year in about this mac section. Thought this would be solved in 14.1 update, but nothing has changed.
2) Mac Pro connected to Thunderbolt Display doesn't show the video of the interlocutor in FaceTime when I make or receive calls. It acts like an audio call, no matter if the camera is turned on or off. Although on the other device you can see the picture from TBD. This was a problem in Ventura as well.
3) Noticed a weird bug working with external drives that I use with Windows in 14.1. As we know, macOS always generates ._ , .trashes etc. files and folders that are usually hidden in Windows. After 14.1 update they somehow became visible in Windows and have to be hidden manually.
Has anyone faced these problems too? Are the any solutions?
(...) should I just pay for Win11 and abandon this bizarre "Alice in Wonderland" Apple/OCLP combo? (...)
Thank you for the confirmation; computers and their software have such complex interactivity and counting on free advice from a few activists can't be counted on; I didn't think (i.e. had no idea) that running a supported OS in addition to an OCLP OS on the same SSD would be so (apparently) problematic; it seems very few attempt this - so I now appreciate that I was exploring the outer realms without the know how. That stated; apart from some oddity every few days both OS's seem to work. I'm getting back to risk taker (explorer) mode and might try Google Gemini's dubious advice about disabling OCLP with a simple command line prior to a reinstall of the supported OS.Yes, this is an explorative endeavor, and this is exactly hat you've signed up for by being here; if you feel unsure/unsafe/unhappy/overwhelmed, I can only recommend that you follow the path of a supported system and wish you well moving on!
I am glad you used the word 'dubious' for the 'advice' from Google Gemini(?). Most of us on this thread have found that, by carefully following the instructions and recommendations of the OCLP developers, more or less everything goes well. Nothing is perfect, but OCLP makes a good stab at it.I'm getting back to risk taker (explorer) mode and might try Google Gemini's dubious advice about disabling OCLP with a simple command line prior to a reinstall of the supported OS.