That's what the leaked version of Windows 11 did. (it can be left justified)
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Running Windows 11 on a Mac Discussion [Merged]
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I was about to open a new thread, but I will use this one: Is it actually possible to bootcamp Windows 11? It has some requirements, for instance, a TPM version 2.0; does the mac lineup have this module?
To answer the poll: Yes, if I am able to, I will install Windows 11 on Boot Camp. And I wish Apple would implement Boot Camp on Apple Silicon macs.
To answer the poll: Yes, if I am able to, I will install Windows 11 on Boot Camp. And I wish Apple would implement Boot Camp on Apple Silicon macs.
It's extremely underwhelming just as the new macOS updates have been too.
Same, I was deliberating about getting a cheap intel MBA 2020, but if it doesn’t support Windows 11... I’ll pass
How can I see if my system supports that? I built a custom gaming PC in 2020.
Has anyone heard if this will be a free upgrade?
Currently using mid-2011 iMacs. I had been thinking about getting the 2018 Mini or 2019 iMac as a replacement, but if they won't be able to run Windows 11 then I don't see the point in getting them for running Windows. Hopefully if Microsoft enforces the TPM 2.0 requirement someone will come up with a workaround to make Windows 11 work reliably with Intel Macs with an easy method to install OTA updates etc.
You have the option to put it back to left start button.
AnD I don’t think ribbon is removed from windows on this version.
You can still setup an offline account without using Microsoft account. You just pick work and school, and pick “domain only”, and you will be able to create an offline account.
Is that The Home or Pro version? If I recall correctly in Windows 10 that question only comes up in Pro. I’d assume the same for 11.
I’m just going off the requirements. the requirements list the home version requiring a Microsoft Account for initial setup.
Oh yeah that’s for Pro version. Haven’t tested Home version. Might need to take a look.
For now, unless the internet is cut during the setup process, I don’t think offline account option would pop up easily.
I have a late 2015 iMac.
I have tried it as a VM under Parallels. It works, but is a bit sluggish.
I have used Hasleo's WinToUSB to put it on an external SSD. Its performance is very impressive, somewhat slicker than Win 10, also on an SSD.
I have not tried to Bootcamp it yet because I have a functioning implementation of Windows 10 on it and I don't want to muck it up. To wipe the Bootcamp and install a new version of Windows will mean wiping my Fusion drive completely, re-installing/restoring macOS, then running Bootcamp Assistant again to partition the drive, install, etc.
I don't know if I will be able to run the update on the Bootcamp installation.
Question -- Does WinToUSB bypass the TMP 2 requirement?
I have tried it as a VM under Parallels. It works, but is a bit sluggish.
I have used Hasleo's WinToUSB to put it on an external SSD. Its performance is very impressive, somewhat slicker than Win 10, also on an SSD.
I have not tried to Bootcamp it yet because I have a functioning implementation of Windows 10 on it and I don't want to muck it up. To wipe the Bootcamp and install a new version of Windows will mean wiping my Fusion drive completely, re-installing/restoring macOS, then running Bootcamp Assistant again to partition the drive, install, etc.
I don't know if I will be able to run the update on the Bootcamp installation.
Question -- Does WinToUSB bypass the TMP 2 requirement?
I think at this point running on a SSD not Fusion Drive is the way forward.
Yes. When you use Bootcamp Assistant to split your Fusion Drive, it only splits the Spinning Platter part, so Windows under Bootcamp on a Fusion Drive only runs at normal HDD speed, i.e. too bl**dy slowly.
I've been running Windows 10 on Bootcamp on mid-2011 iMacs on the stock 7200RPM hdd and switched one over to booting off an external NVMe SSD, but unless I can find a way to reliably boot off that external (sometimes it doesn't come back up when I reboot) I'll need to look into either replacing the internal HDD with an SSD or getting new machines, so which Macs if any can do Bootcamp reliably with Windows 11 will be important to my decision on what to do.
macOS with the addition of third-party window management and control apps like Moom far surpasses anything that Windows has ever offered, and what Windows 11 will offer in this regard. This is a major reason why I always feel confounded whenever I need to go back to Windows.
Windows has gotten better, and there are third-party apps like AquaSnap which sorta-kinda work, but Windows still has a long way to go in terms of offering an organized arrangement of windows. Unless you don't mind the plain-Jane left-right or quarter-size window arrangements, of course.
Indeed, and I would say that Windows 10 and earlier on Boot Camp running on any Mac is the least secure configuration of Windows you can have. BitLocker: not supported; no disk encryption for Windows partitions; T2 chip: not supported. Terrible for security reasons. Virtualization with apps like Parallels at least gives you the advantage of running Windows with the benefit of macOS' out-of-the-box disk encryption.
How easy it is to siphon data off of a non-encrypted Windows hard disk partition, if you have physical access to it. Windows Home is really lacking in that respect. I'm glad that Microsoft is upping the security requirements in that regard on Windows 11. It's about time. Windows Home users have always faced that risk without the encryption features available for Professional users... which was already available for macOS users for many, many years now.
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Excuse the noob question here, but what is TPM 2.0? A certain security chip maybe? Like the T2 chip in Macs?
Not true. I am currently replying to this using Windows 11 on a late 2015 iMac (native install on an external USB via Hasleo's WinToUSB).
Sadly no. It is using the same Win 10 codebase, with some tweaks in the UI and performance. There is still stuff in there that dates back to Windows XP and before.