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Tim Cook Praises Apple's 'Symbiotic Relationship' With China During Beijing Visit
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The US corporation is bankrupt. The brain is dead and the body is thrashing about, but eventually it'll stop moving. Keep your eyes open over the next few weeks and months, and watch the glorious collapse.
Once again, the irony comes through. Same old playbook, same old projection.
I refer you to the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012. Read the section about the repeal of the domestic dissemination ban. Mass media is the enemy of the people.
EDIT: I don't mind when someone disagrees with me; in fact, it's a normal part of rational debate. However, when presented with facts, even facts that are published by the very government that is supposed to serve The People, segments of our society refuse to allow actual proof to get in the way of their "beliefs" (read: beliefs that were pounded into their heads by the corrupted institutions that nurtured them). Once again, irony rears its head, that you would actually disagree about how mass media lies to and manipulates the public via legalized propaganda, while saying that it has "nurtured hate" out of the other side of your mouth.
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The CCP is the focus of evil in the world today. It is well known that the CCP engages in crimes against humanity, represses it own population through violence and intimidation, engages in government and corporate corruption as normal operating procedure and uses exploitation as world-wide tool of government power. It threatens its peaceful neighbors to further its nationalistic aims. None if this even touches upon its reckless negligence and indifference to humanity by casting a global pandemic, perhaps that first one in human history that could be have been entirely avoided, upon the world resulting in the mass killing of millions of people world wide. Obviously trying to hide the truth, the CCP will not even allow international scientists in iits terroritory to get to the bottom of such issues.
Comparing the CCP to the US government is an exercise of false equivalency writ large for a number reasons, not the least of which is that the USA has a government elected by its people every four years with clear institutional separation of powers. China, through the CCP, is a dictatorship. The mere fact that Apple is so intertwine with such a regime is a deep shame for Apple and freedom loving governments across the world. The sooner Apple shifts its production away from China, the sooner it will become a good citizen of the world and begin to protect the future of its own business.
Comparing the CCP to the US government is an exercise of false equivalency writ large for a number reasons, not the least of which is that the USA has a government elected by its people every four years with clear institutional separation of powers. China, through the CCP, is a dictatorship. The mere fact that Apple is so intertwine with such a regime is a deep shame for Apple and freedom loving governments across the world. The sooner Apple shifts its production away from China, the sooner it will become a good citizen of the world and begin to protect the future of its own business.
I like how you're getting downvoted for something that is 100% factually accurate. Fiction is preferable to unpleasant truths. Plugging one's ears and saying "La-la-la I can't hear you!"
Most Americans are still committed to the myth of American exceptionalism. We genuinely believe we're the "good guys" in the world narrative, that our hearts have always been in the right place throughout all these atrocities, and that the definition of utopia is a unipolar world led by the U.S., which is why the few countries that challenge that order (Russia, China), have to be portrayed as the embodiment of pure evil.
China’s government canceled their highly successful zero-COVID policy in large part due to pressure from Apple and Nike. As a result, in just over two months, 1.3 million people died in China from COVID (according to U.K.-based predictive health analytics company Airfinity). This should show you how truly evil of a man Tim Cook is.
It’s not a “symbiotic relationship,” Tim. It’s a parasitic relationship. And you, Tim, are one of the biggest parasites.
Chinese workers are full human beings, not subhumans to be parasitically exploited by corporations for maximized profits.
Chinese workers are full human beings, not subhumans to be parasitically exploited by corporations for maximized profits.
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Timmy is in bed with the one of the biggest threats to the west. Anything for a dollar.
Yes - a huge threat! They already have all their warships right up to the US coastline and military bases on Cuba, in Mexico and Canada!
… oh wait! Did I get it mixed up?
The sooner everyone can decouple from China the better.
It's very much still a huge concern.
I gave my son a Huawei watch a few years ago for Christmas. I thought he'd be excited, but when he opened it, he frowned. I asked him if he wanted a different model and he said: "Dad, I can't wear this". When I asked why, he told me that since he works on highly secure missile systems at the aerospace company he is employed at, he would not be allowed, even on his leisure time at home and about.
After that, I was shocked when I went to a security conference in a US city that had an international pavilion. In that pavilion, there were numerous Chinese companies looking to sell security camera, face recognition, and cyber protection systems to American attendees. How any American company can purchase and use Chinese tech in security or cybersecurity systems is beyond me. After being around these issues, I'm not hesitant to think that China hasn't manipulated chip technology to spy on our iPhones as well...
You are way too pessimistic.
US can still solve absolutely any issue at a time. The challenge is having too many things come at you at the same time(failing infrastructure that have been ignored for a long time etc.). The superpower status can only ever be had if proved in the face of extreme adversity on all fronts.
The authoritarian governments of Russia and China are undeniably evil, though. Recent events have only reinforced that fact. You can throw all the whataboutisms you want, at the end of the day for all its (many) faults the US is still a democracy (a very flawed one, but still).
In the other thread people seemed to take issue with the fact that I am reluctant to travel to China for political reasons. And yet this thread…
Where would you like to put them? On Mars? It’s one billion people and they are a part of this planet no matter if you like it or not. They might be wanting to decouple from US as well. Join India, Russia and Africa. Then you will be completely decoupled.
How do you define “undeniable evil”?
I don’t know much about Russia, but the Russian people have been able to overthrow leaders they didn’t like before.
For China I think it’s a far stretch to call them undeniably evil. China and the Chinese people have always been like ants. If they decide to work together on something they can move just about anything. And they will work together on what serves MOST of the population the best. Now if you’re an ant in China and doesn’t want to follow the rest you will have a hard time to put it mildly. China is NOT a place for individualism. But note that a lot of Chinese has been lifted out of poverty, getting an education and are living very decent lives. But still under the condition that you follow whatever the party says is for the common good. Do they have problems with human rights? Oh yes for sure! But if that’s the criteria a lot of nations are “undeniably evil”.
Well the thing is, it's possible. Since THEY do all the assembly, and the contractors probably don't even bother to look over the hardware (food and drug companies don't tend to look over/test their imports apparently), OR the software/firmware, who knows what's lurking in that stuff, and largely unknown.
I do not have a soft side when it comes to communists, the ideology needs to be removed like the cancer it is. The US and every other nation on this planet has waited too long and allowed them to get too much power.
Right, I'm not at all suggesting China doesn't have problems with human rights or commit atrocities. It's just that there are clear economic motives for China being viewed as the enemy from an American perspective (namely that they threaten our economic dominance and our status as "the only superpower"); it has little to do with concern for human rights or "atrocities", when we are often complicit in atrocities ourselves or ignore atrocities in other countries. There's always some narrative or excuse that makes it acceptable when we do it, or some excuse for why we can't divest from such a country if a relationship with them is to our economic benefit (see Saudi Arabia or Israel). We're not going to "pull away from China" for moral reasons; we will do so when a relationship with them is no longer beneficial.
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It is a big problem conflating the people of these countries with their unelected rulers. This is how we get attacks as if we are condemning the people.
Well that, and the whole communism part.
I will agree with you that it only ends when the relationship is no longer beneficial. Doesn't change that we should demand from our leaders that it ends.
Does this mean that you are finally ready for action or will you wait a bit longer until another puppet like Hitler will come along to do your dirty work for you?
There is a reason why the British left their communication with Hitler classified for another 50 years and Henry Ford had a bust of Hitler sitting on his desk. At this stage "the best kept secret" does not have to be a secret.
Honestly, if you can't even agree with the basic assertion that totalitarian regimes are not a good thing, then there's really no point in discussing with you. Especially while they are actively undermining democracy throughout the world as we speak, in subtle and less subtle (*cough*Ukraine*cough*) ways.
I was also pretty clear that I was critical of their governments, not their people, who for the most part are victims who have no say in how they are ruled, and even if they disagree they can't openly speak out about it, so I'm not sure why you started talking about the people, other than to falsely accuse me of painting a broad stroke on the people of Russia and China as a whole.
I might agree with you except for Apple pandering to China on numerous occasions.
Perhaps you remember when they capitulated to Chinese demands that iCloud security keys be held on Chinese territory? Or them forcing Apple to remove certain apps from Chinese app store? Or them making Apple remove the Taiwan flag in iOS in certain countries? Or them forcing Apple to label parts made in Taiwan as made in (Taiwan) China?
These are just off the top of my head. Not the same at all.
All true of course- Apple is after their fat market and cheap labour and that’s well established as are the plenty downsides of both regimes. Point is, sitting in one of the two countries and solely blaming the other one is just silly. Apple loves China for multiple reasons and are not anywhere close to changing this in any significant way. Of course this rubs the nationalist in some posters the wrong way who love to act as if the relationship between China and Apple are somehow new or surprising.