Digital Markets Act (DMA), also consists of a provision that any company, including Apple, cannot steal user's data or combine data collected from two different services belonging to the same company. Apple's advertising identifier, that spans across the device may become illegal perhaps, as it allows combining data across the entire device? Not sure about the last one though.
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Digital Markets Act (DMA), also consists of a provision that any company, including Apple, cannot steal user's data or combine data collected from two different services belonging to the same company. Apple's advertising identifier, that spans across the device may become illegal perhaps, as it allows combining data across the entire device? Not sure about the last one though.
Sony is getting sued for 5.9 billion right now due to this.
It is quite rare for Windows to get true viruses either. That is why it changed to malware. I have seen MANY malware in the last 10+ years, but zero viruses.
What a load.
Apple is concerned about Security, security, security to excuse their monopolistic AND anti-consumer business practices.
let’s stop BSing ourselves worrying about our tech savvy Grandmas’ installing Shoddy apps while completely ignoring the decades people have been using the comparatively far more open Macs + MacOS.
Apple can only delay these anti-trust measures by lobbying$$$ corporate Democrats and Republicans, in the meantime they can spare us the “security and privacy“ marketing while Macs exist and they snoop around people’s photos stored in their cloud servers.
AH we are back to the "just don't download apps not on the store" argument again. How about don't download side-loaded apps so we can keep our walled garden? This is literally "I WANT MY WAY!!!!" attitude. Apps WILL leave the App Store thus FORCING US to go outside the walled garden.
All the people who want system-wide adblockers have to sideload. I do not know how many people actually use system-wide adblocking. Hint: It's not a very very very small percentage.
Ad blocking surges as millions more seek privacy, security and less annoyance
In the US, an estimated 40% of adults block online ads on PCs or phones.
But it's on mobile devices where ad blocking is really increasing, doubling over the last five years, from 282 million to 586 million at the end of 2020, according to the 2021 PageFair Adblock Report from ad tech firm Blockthrough. That's a 10% increase over the 2020 PageFair report on ad blocking.
This is just one use-case on Android for sideloading. There are several others.
That is a load of bull.
Monopoly? Android exists. Not only that, as a developer I am not forced to even make a mobile app!
Anti-consumer practices? Name some......One store is the most consumer oriented thing they could do. It is easy, as safe as it can be (there will ALWAYS be issues), for ANY app issues I deal with Apple not dozens of developer support people from India, etc.
Nothing in that article says they are side-loading. Adblock Plus is on the Google Play store.....All the people who want system-wide adblockers have to sideload. I do not know how many people actually use system-wide adblocking. Hint: It's not a very very very small percentage.
Ad blocking surges as millions more seek privacy, security and less annoyance
In the US, an estimated 40% of adults block online ads on PCs or phones.www.cnet.com
But it's on mobile devices where ad blocking is really increasing, doubling over the last five years, from 282 million to 586 million at the end of 2020, according to the 2021 PageFair Adblock Report from ad tech firm Blockthrough. That's a 10% increase over the 2020 PageFair report on ad blocking.
This is just one use-case on Android for sideloading. There are several others.
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Brave browser also blocks ads. I have it on iOS and iPadOS and I did not need to side load to get Brave browser.
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If they leave, then it’s because the Apple AppStore sucks and better alternative exists for both sides, for dev and customers. That’s how a competitive healthy market works.
Take Affinity as example, they have their Apps everywhere, it works.This is exactly what I see happening
Just don’t use Facebook and make a phone call, or write SMS, or use Signal. People who uses Facebook knows they are after their data, everybody knows that, it’s no secret anymore, they already sold their souls to the devil anyway.
I never had a Facebook account, there is life outside it, it works, too.
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No not really. Epic buys up exclusives on the PC side, but Steam on PC does not "suck". Epic has stated they want their own store on iOS. And the way the handle it on the PC side, we will be seeing popular games leave App Store to be Epic Store exclusives. Epic dips in their deep pockets and makes it more difficult for the consumer.
And Steam is still the better Store. I have them all installed, MS, Epic, Steam, GOG, a healthy competition, also iTunes but it has no games.
The same does Apple with Apple Arcade to enforce subscriptions, I just name Jetpack Joyride the latest addition. They took a game title away (again) with $$$ and want to force me into something that is worse and I don’t want. Good that I’m not a Jetpack Joyride fan, take this just as a example.
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Well it’s just that when Apple does something like that, it’s good. When other companies do it, it’s bad. You see?
Such code was and is in their apps today:
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/11/12/facebook-bug-camera-background-access/
https://www.macrumors.com/2020/06/25/tiktok-clipboard-access-ios-14-caught/
https://www.macrumors.com/2022/08/18/felix-krause-in-app-browser-javascript-tool/
Reviewed and approved by Apple "for your security and privacy".
They obviously didn't and don't need sideloading to do it.
You will have the choice not to use those developer's apps then.
You will have the choice to use other developer's apps.
There's half a dozen to dozens of dozens of viable choices for any kind of app. Much more than there is in mobile operating systems - to counter the argument that people should "use Android if you don't like it".
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Really simple. Apple can allow other App stores, but there is zero reason that HAVE to allow them to use all the capabilities of the phone. Sandbox it. No photo access, Contacts, FaceID or anything in fact. You get a screen, internet connection and touch.
They could drop the fee to 15% for everyone… but then they’ll still complain. I remember the bad old days where I had to Market, store, distribute and manage my software sales… and in the badder, older days when I had to get Physical media printed and copied and shipped. And retailer cut - that’s 40% straight off 30% is nothing For an ecosystem and potential clients!!! I was lucky to get TAKE HOME 40%… And then get taxed on that!
Load of moaning old ladies want everything for free.
They could drop the fee to 15% for everyone… but then they’ll still complain. I remember the bad old days where I had to Market, store, distribute and manage my software sales… and in the badder, older days when I had to get Physical media printed and copied and shipped. And retailer cut - that’s 40% straight off 30% is nothing For an ecosystem and potential clients!!! I was lucky to get TAKE HOME 40%… And then get taxed on that!
Load of moaning old ladies want everything for free.
The problem is WE agree to allow access to the Camera / Clipboard when you install the app… It’s all there in the download page for tik tok and facebook.
Yes, there is very good reason. Kneecapping other apps by withholding basic functionality and data access from them is anticompetitive - exactly what's being investigated.
This is going to do zero to satisfy or even placate antitrust investigators and legislators (and rightly so).
We're not living in the olden days of software distribution on physical media anymore.
Agree on this one.
Privacy will only be effectively safeguarded by user choice - and that choice being respected by vendors and and enforced by a secure OS. Not by Apple's current review process.
The gubment machine will do what it does (and doesn’t and should). But it will be what it will be. Big companies are needed to move the economy. The government is making sure that doesn’t happen.
Same, for 22 years (and counting).
I do understand the difference. Just stating, I've never experienced any one (myself included) with actual malware on a Mac. Even when someone asked me to look at their computer because they believed (falsely) they had malware. Most of the time, it was just a full drive. Or, over use of applications they don't really use, starting up and taking up memory and CPU resources. People just like to download stuff I suppose. Every time (so far), I just clean up what's on the desktop (people dump EVERYTHING on the desktop). Stop the apps (mainly delete them) from starting up at login. Run disk utility to make sure the drive is OK. Reboot, and they fine again. Back to the snappy.
Not saying it doesn't exist. Just saying out of dozens of macs I've used and helped over the years (obviously I work mostly on PC/Servers/Networks/etc. Only a few Macs at my company at present. Over the years, we have had them all since G4's). I haven't seen 1 piece of malware on a Mac. You pretty much have to put in on their yourself. I've personally been on a Mac since the late 90's. Never encountered any.
YMMV
Can you provide a link for AdBlock plus on PlayStore. I cannot find it. In any case, as I said, AdBlock plus is a browser adblocker. I am talking about system-wide adblocker such as Blokada and block-this. They are non-root adblockers that are available as APKs only or through alternate stores such as F-Droid. To use them, one has to sideload. There is no other option. I have already stated that I do not know the percentage of people who are using system-wide adblock. For example, the paid version of Blokada has 100,000 plus installs. The free version has to be installed via apk. You can estimate how many installations it has. There are many such apps.Nothing in that article says they are side-loading. Adblock Plus is on the Google Play store.....
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Brave browser also blocks ads. I have it on iOS and iPadOS and I did not need to side load to get Brave browser.
Do you really think Apple isn’t already charging the very most they think they can get?