All Devices Updated Apple Maps

[MozMan68]

I just dont remember hearing the tick-tock ones before like they are now in IOS12. Before when I left the interstate for gas, it would start telling me how to get back on track very quickly. Now Im hearing the new sounds before I get to the bottom of the exit ramp.

They were always there when the voice can’t be used like when you are on a phone call...you get the audible prompts instead of the voice.

They should only occur in that situation (or if you choose it)....what I’m saying is that my phone was giving me the audible prompts when it should have been giving me the voice. And i think that was just more of the phone confusing the connection with the stereo it was plugged into.

Are you saying the audible prompts are different than before? They sound the same to me.

 

[MozMan68]

Well...must be some sort of glitch as the sound prompts were coming on for me all morning when I was using Maps...and then, suddenly, the voice prompts started working on one of the trips.

 

[Ed217]

Clearly something different is going on here with 12, just not sure what yet.

 

[MozMan68]

Clearly something different is going on here with 12, just not sure what yet.

Yeah...but it’s just an audio glitch. And it’s a rare occurrence for me. Ha donkey happened on two occasions since PB1.

 

[MadeByApple]

My only gripe with Apple maps is the delay between where I am on the map versus where I really am in life.

I feel like in real life I approach street intersections far sooner than Apple maps displays on the turn-by-turn directions. This causes me to miss turns sometimes.

Google Maps/Waze has the same issue but i think Apple Maps has it far worse.

 

[Julien]

The gist of the thread is about Apple's use of its own data in maps instead of a hodgepodge of aggregated data from Tom Tom, etc. This is about the underlying points and what you see in Maps view. Any satellite images, announcements, directions, other changes or problems are different issues than what Apple's announced about switching to internal Map data.

 

[Julien]

Couple more shots this time from San Francisco using same format of 11 and then 12.

 

[MozMan68]

Last image in the post above...iOS12...the walkway just above MLK Dr. should continue to the left of the street that breaks off to the top of the map. Clearly visible in the satellite view...and Google Maps has it.

Makes me wonder why it isn't there?

Still some work to do....Walking directions would come to a sudden halt there.

 

[MozMan68]

Still having audio prompt issues every once in a while, but one thing I noticed that REALLY helps compared to Waze; when I'm off the route (in a parking lot or a driveway), Maps immediately shows direction I'm moving so I at least know I'm heading in the correct direction. With Waze, it defaults to the route like it doesn't know where you really are until your moving some distance. It's basically a 50/50 shot when I'm turning onto the road that the route is going, and yeah...I guess wrong more than 50% of the time typically...

Still huge parsing issues...fast food joints show up on Maps as well as Waze or Google this week when I looked, but seriously, I don't want to have to drive onto an Air Force Base or to a sports stadium to get to one. Those should be tagged as such or just removed from the list when you are set to "drive" there.

Although, the same thing can happen in Waze when a fast food joint is in a mall. I think Google notes it sometimes so you know to pick the next one. Will be in the Bay Area in August to go Maps crazy and see if I can notice any changes.

 

[Aussi3]

Any new map data in beta 4? Or improvements?

 

[digitalexplr]

Clearly data is being updated. I passed two Apple Map vans in town last week.

 

[MozMan68]

Clearly data is being updated. I passed two Apple Map vans in town last week.

Where?

I think his question was more around the data in the Bay Area...has it improved or changed in any way??

 

[digitalexplr]

Where?

I think his question was more around the data in the Bay Area...has it improved or changed in any way??

Understood. The only data update thus far is the Bay Area.

However they are updating the whole mapping system, so seeing the mapping vans around the country is encouraging.

I specifically passed them in Jefferson City, Missouri.

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[Feenician]

Aren't the changes going to be server side for now? I don't think they'll require iOS 12 updates, will they?

 

[Julien]

Aren't the changes going to be server side for now? I don't think they'll require iOS 12 updates, will they?

Correct, the new maps are just limited to iOS 12 but as usual with server pushed data is totally unrelated to any iOS 12 update. There may have been new area/data added yesterday and/or some could be added tomorrow.

 

[MozMan68]

Aren't the changes going to be server side for now? I don't think they'll require iOS 12 updates, will they?

The article specifically stated that only iOS 12 beta users would see the changes for now.

 

[digitalexplr]

Aren't the changes going to be server side for now? I don't think they'll require iOS 12 updates, will they?

That is the impression I have. The Map update will be across the board. Maybe something special for iOS 12? But I haven't gotten the impression iOS 12 will be a requirement.

 

[MozMan68]

Understood. The only data update thus far is the Bay Area.

However they are updating the whole mapping system, so seeing the mapping vans around the country is encouraging.

I specifically passed them in Jefferson City, Missouri.

Yeah...the Maps webpage shows where they are working on a county or city basis. Even mapping England right now.

https://maps.apple.com/vehicles/

 

[Feenician]

Correct, the new maps are just limited to iOS 12 but as usual with server pushed data is totally unrelated to any iOS 12 update. There may have been new area/data added yesterday and/or some could be added tomorrow.

The article specifically stated that only iOS 12 beta users would see the changes for now.

Yep, iOS12 only but presumably served by user agent and should update dynamically server side, as they make changes?

 

[Julien]

.... But I haven't gotten the impression iOS 12 will be a requirement.

As of now the new data in NOT on iOS 11 . So unless it changes it will be a iOS 12 only feature. Probably will be used as a reason as a need to update.

 

[Feenician]

That is the impression I have. The Map update will be across the board. Maybe something special for iOS 12? But I haven't gotten the impression iOS 12 will be a requirement.

I thought otherwise but I'm quite possibly wrong.

 

[MozMan68]

I thought otherwise but I'm quite possibly wrong.

I think you are correct though. There is something in iOS12 obviously that will let one “see” the updated Maps.

Someone way smarter than me needs to explain how though...and why.

 

[Feenician]

Someone way smarter than me needs to explain how though...and why.

The most likely method is User Agent headers in the web service calls sent from your device when the Maps app makes request to the servers. It's the same mechanism web servers use to detect whether you're using Chrome or Safari, on Windows or a Mac, Mobile or Desktop.

 

[MozMan68]

The most likely method is User Agent headers in the web service calls sent from your device when the Maps app makes request to the servers. It's the same mechanism web servers use to detect whether you're using Chrome or Safari, on Windows or a Mac, Mobile or Desktop.

Sure...but why limit new Maps to beta users only?

Unless they are worried about “data overload” as they test the routing system. I wonder how many people in the Bay Area are on the beta versus not?

Okay...now that I say that, makes sense why they would purposefully limit it versus it being a true iOS 12 required update.

 

[Feenician]

Sure...but why limit new Maps to beta users only?

Unless they are worried about “data overload” as they test the routing system. I wonder how many people in the Bay Area are on the beta versus not?

Okay...now that I say that, makes sense why they would purposefully limit it versus it being a true iOS 12 required update.

Ah. Gotcha. That I don't know.