InterWebPPC browser - A rebrand of TenFourFox for the future.

[wicknix]

Yeah. I use the viewtube script to download videos. I use this version:

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Cheers

 

[B S Magnet]

Apropos of absolutely nothing, I found everything goes a whole mess faster when wanting to load and view the MR forums via InterwebPPC (or whichever Mozilla browser is your preferred go-to), once uMatrix puts the kibosh on all — ::cough:: 22 (!!!) — of the Javascript calls from forums.macrumors.com:

Of course, this means I can’t post or reply from the 466MHz iBook G3 unless I reload the page with all 22 of those Javascript calls green-lighted. But seriously, have you experienced how slow the key press echo lag time is for a sub-500MHz G3 when you’re trying to write a MR forum reply via the current Xenforo forum platform? I’d just as soon watch salt water taffy be made before my very eyes.

Anyway, file this under “Respect your G3: skip the JS.”

NOTE: This post was written and sent from a 2.6GHz C2D MacBook Pro… hey, wait, why are you looking at me like that… I’m not being hypocritical!

 

[Macbookprodude]

Wicknix,

Again, thank you very much for keeping our PowerPC macs alive with InterwebPPC, however I have an issue and maybe you can assist. Some websites I tried to load are giving me SSL errors. I thought InterwebPPC loads most if not ALL the internet websites out there. If I send you a list of the websites that are not allowing me to visit them, can you tell me what the issue is ? I am currently using InterwebPPC and love it as it loads most if not all websites, but a couple are bothering me as to why they are not opening up.

 

[Macbookprodude]

Apropos of absolutely nothing, I found everything goes a whole mess faster when wanting to load and view the MR forums via InterwebPPC (or whichever Mozilla browser is your preferred go-to), once uMatrix puts the kibosh on all — ::cough:: 22 (!!!) — of the Javascript calls from forums.macrumors.com:


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Of course, this means I can’t post or reply from the 466MHz iBook G3 unless I reload the page with all 22 of those Javascript calls green-lighted. But seriously, have you experienced how slow the key press echo lag time is for a sub-500MHz G3 when you’re trying to write a MR forum reply via the current Xenforo forum platform? I’d just as soon watch salt water taffy be made before my very eyes.

Anyway, file this under “Respect your G3: skip the JS.”

NOTE: This post was written and sent from a 2.6GHz C2D MacBook Pro… hey, wait, why are you looking at me like that… I’m not being hypocritical!

Hi B S, Magnet got a quick question. Now that the old web 1.1 is picking up, I wanted to know does MacRumors have a backdoor where it can be accessed as if it were 2000? I was just wondering.

 

[Macbookprodude]

www.penfed.com - For some reason interweb is not allowing me to access my bank account, on Intel it works.. so, does this mean PowerPC macs can no longer access bank and or government websites ? That is so unfair.

 

[wicknix]

Rolling Release 2 is now available. Get it from here.
It's now much smaller in file size than TFF.

Cheers

 

[Dronecatcher]

Rolling Release 2 is now available. Get it from here.
It's now much smaller in file size than TFF.

Crashes immediately on my G3 iBook - seems it's looking for 7 libraries not bundled.

From the crash log:

Library not loaded: /opt/macports-tff/lib/libgcc/libatomic.1.dylib
Referenced from: /Applications/InterWebPPC.app/Contents/MacOS/libmozglue.dylib
Reason: image not found

Not tried G4 version yet - maybe this accounts for the smaller file size this time around?

 

[wicknix]

Thanks for the info. I tested the G4 and G5 builds on both 10.4 and 10.5. I built these on leopard this time rather than tiger. In doing so i was supposed to add 3 libs from a tiger build. I may have forgotten to do that for the G3 build. Will take a look tonight after work.

Cheers

 

[wicknix]

Figured it out i think. Looks like i forgot to relink the libs to the app from macports. Should work now. Uploaded new files. Let me know the results. Thanks.

Nvm, its still not right. Full rebuilds are required. Stay tuned.

Fixed!

 

[wicknix]

Not tried G4 version yet - maybe this accounts for the smaller file size

It was just a typo in my relink script. It's smaller because i changed the way the browser is packaged. TFF's default way of packaging left lots of unneeded and unused files in the .app. Show the contents of both IWRR2 and TFF and you'll see the difference.

Cheers

 

[Dronecatcher]

It was just a typo in my relink script. It's smaller because i changed the way the browser is packaged. TFF's default way of packaging left lots of unneeded and unused files in the .app. Show the contents of both IWRR2 and TFF and you'll see the difference.

Cheers

Thanks - all good on the G3

 

[G4PPC]

Rolling Release 2 is now available. Get it from here.
It's now much smaller in file size than TFF.

Cheers

Thank you for this when TFF reached it's end of support I thought I'd never be able to surf the web securely again with my G4. Using the last version of TFF I could find when ever I clicked on a link I would get a error saying Your connection is not secure and I would have to add an exception in order to open even a trusted site. However once I got InterwebPPC I can visit all the sites with out that error which is great.

On a side note I found that InterwebPPC RR2 can install certain add-ons from Seamonkey found Here

 

[TzunamiOSX]

@wicknix

Is there a compiled version of the rolling release 2 for Void Linux 32/64?

 

[wicknix]

No. PPC Linux has much newer browsers than one thats based on FF45. 32bit has FF52/60 based browsers and current webkit browsers. Void 64bit has FF68, 78, and 100 along with current webkit browsers. I really don't see the need for it.

Cheers

 

[alphaer]

Hello all
I would like to raise the discussion so that the browser for PPC is still useful. InterWEB has become much lighter and faster, that's a very good thing, many thanks to Wicknix. But at the same time, functionality was lost. I'm surprised: the old tenfourfox opens more sites correctly than InterWEB does. It seems, in pursuit of speed, the necessary functionality has been removed. And unfortunately I excited to stop using it. We already have one lightweight browser, ArcticFox, which does not always work correctly, but very quickly.
Why do we need ArcticFox number 2?
I think, we must go to another way
Yes, I'm one of the crazy ones who really still has mac ppc in one of the my workplaces and still does useful work. I run two browsers "fast" and "full"- ArcticFox for regular pages (approximately 50.. 65% it opens well)
for others that ArcticFox did not open next 25% - tenfourfox, the rest that I cannot open - a tablet with chrome.
I think that we need to move not in the direction of reduction, but on the contrary, in the direction of increasing functionality, try to make as many sites work as possible. Let it be huge, very slowly, but works correctly
So there will be two browsers: fast, quick and durty browsing - ArcticFox, if functional is needed - updated slow "tenforfox", or firefox or so on. What does anybody think about it?

 

[wicknix]

Anybody can freely compile the latest tenfourfox source, but only for their own personal use. That binary can not be shared however.

Being that TFF is still only FF45 a lot of sites will continue to quit working more and more every day.

The AF build for 10.4/10.5 is 3 years old now and wasnt easy to port, and didnt fully work. Interwebppc is my attempt to fill that void. I prefer speed on old machines, and interwebppc is provided free of charge out of the goodness of my heart. I havent seen or heard of anybody else stepping up to continue the TFF legacy, or create any other forks of it. So until that happens.... what you see is what you get. ;-)

That's my 2 cents.

Cheers

 

[barracuda156]

when TFF reached it's end of support

It actually had some updates this year, the latest being: https://github.com/classilla/tenfourfox/commit/fbd13e3c861b49128d8961f63062591381dabdc0

 

[MarkC426]

Apologies if answered in the 8 pages (havn't read through).
I opened this page on my 1ghz G4 PB in Leopard, if I click the GitHub link Safari won't open the page.

Is there a knack, short of downloading from a modern mac.

And which build would I need.....

 

[Dronecatcher]

Apologies if answered in the 8 pages (havn't read through).
I opened this page on my 1ghz G4 PB in Leopard, if I click the GitHub link Safari won't open the page.

Is there a knack, short of downloading from a modern mac.

And which build would I need.....

Also available here (link works in Safari)

https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/interwebppc-browser-a-rebrand-of-tenfourfox-the-future

 

[MarkC426]

Thanks @Dronecatcher, which build would be better for my PB, RR2-G4 or RR2-G4-QuartzGL.....?

 

[Dronecatcher]

Thanks @Dronecatcher, which build would be better for my PB, RR2-G4 or RR2-G4-QuartzGL.....?

That'll depend on which particular 1Ghz model you have and whether it has a Core Image capable GPU - I'd go for RR2-G4 if you aren't sure.

 

[MarkC426]

I went for the QGL version, coz I am pretty sure that rings a bell (Nvidia GeforceFX go5200 gpu).
All seems good.
Doing some googling, does QGL need to be activated in Leopard.....?

@wicknix damn fine job by the way, it looks great compared to Safari.....

 

[Dronecatcher]

I went for the QGL version, coz I am pretty sure that rings a bell (Nvidia GeforceFX go5200 gpu).
All seems good.
Doing some googling, does QGL need to be activated in Leopard.....?

@wicknix damn fine job by the way, it looks great compared to Safari.....

I'm guessing Quartz GL is enabled in the prefs.js file for InterWebPPC - systemwide activation of it can decrease performance.

 

[MacFoxG4]

Just wanted to say that I really like InterWebPPC. I use the Quartz GL enabled G5 version on my PM G5 and the regular G4 and G3 versions on my Sawtooth and iBook G3 respectively. I find the Quartz GL enabled edition to be a much smoother browsing experience compared to the last release of TFF.

 

[ltpitt]

Hi all!

I am the happiest interwebppc user on the planet and I use it on my eMac 1.25, my iMac 500 and, I was hoping on my overclocked iMac 233 (now 300) but...
No joy!

I just installed tiger using xpostfacto.
The machine is g3 300mhz, 512 mb ram, 80 gb hdd.

Tiger works imho quite decently but when I start interwebppc tells me: "You cannot use InterWebPPC with this version of Mac OS X"...
I am suffering so much!

Is this fixable?