iOS 17.5 Beta 1 ― Bug Fixes, Changes, and Improvements

[one more]

I see the public beta is out… should I or shouldn’t I 🤔

What for, a colour changing Apple podcast widget? 😋 There is nothing else that can be useful right now:

Here's Everything New in iOS 17.5 Beta 1 So Far

Apple this week made the first betas of iOS 17.5 and iPadOS 17.5 available to developers for testing. The upcoming software updates include only a...

www.macrumors.com

 

[gwhizkids]

One obvious bug lol

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Yeah. I have that too

 

[iAppleHater]

It’s fixed sluggish performance on iPhone 13? I notice it since first ios 17 update. Started think that they slow down my phone. My animation stutters every time on 17.4.1 E237

 

[PsykX]

One obvious bug lol

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As a dev, it's interesting to see what strings Apple uses to localize stuff.
There doesn't seem to be any structure to it, it seems like the pattern I use myself in my apps seems much better...

 

[ahmede]

It’s fixed sluggish performance on iPhone 13? I notice it since first ios 17 update. Started think that they slow down my phone. My animation stutters every time on 17.4.1 E237

Would you recommend 17.5 as a daily driver. Battery Life and Stutters are terrible on 17.4.1 E237

 

[P_Watt]

As a dev, it's interesting to see what strings Apple uses to localize stuff.
There doesn't seem to be any structure to it, it seems like the pattern I use myself in my apps seems much better...

I wonder how they introduce a bug into the battery charging page if no additional function was introduced.

 

[Cobold]

I wonder how they introduce a bug into the battery charging page if no additional function was introduced.

You know, software code can change without the end user „seeing“ any additional functionality 😉

 

[PsykX]

I wonder how they introduce a bug into the battery charging page if no additional function was introduced.

This is the magic of software development.

The best practice is to encapsulate/isolate/atomize things as much as possible in your code, but sometimes it's very hard and playing with code at one place has repercussions in dozens of places in your project...

 

[P_Watt]

This is the magic of software development.

The best practice is to encapsulate/isolate/atomize things as much as possible in your code, but sometimes it's very hard and playing with code at one place has repercussions in dozens of places in your project...

Absolutely, but it took a layman only a few minutes to spot it. Are we really the first to actually run it through a phone?
And good modular code should not be corrupted by another module. It's a battery meter ffs.

 

[PsykX]

Absolutely, but it took a layman only a few minutes to spot it. Are we really the first to actually run it through a phone?
And good modular code should not be corrupted by another module. It's a battery meter ffs.

I totally get you.

I've gotta say, I have a hard time isolating stuff myself (as a hobbyist), but Apple programmers must be amongst the best on the entire planet, I expect them to be able to do it much better than I can do it myself.

 

[sbailey4]

I wonder how they introduce a bug into the battery charging page if no additional function was introduced.

See the post above yours (#101) And view that article. Could explain how this happened. They are working in that area.

Code Changes​

Battery Health Menu for Future iPads​

 

[gwhizkids]

See the post above yours (#101) And view that article. Could explain how this happened. They are working in that area.

Code Changes​

Battery Health Menu for Future iPads​

That’s exactly what I was thinking as well.

Stuff like this can happen in betas, especially beta 1s.

That’s why they are betas. Stuff can be and is broken from time to time.

And I really don’t want to hear how Apple should do better. It’s a freaking BETA. You have no right to expect it to be flawless (at least as flawless as it can be) until public release.

 

[StumpyBloke]

And I really don’t want to hear how Apple should do better. It’s a freaking BETA. You have no right to expect it to be flawless (at least as flawless as it can be) until public release.

Exactly this! This thread and previous beta threads are becoming increasingly frustrating to read because of this issue.

 

[gwhizkids]

Exactly this! This thread and previous beta threads are becoming increasingly frustrating to read because of this issue.

These threads frequently get unreadable as we get into the “lean” months ahead of WWDC. But this year has been particularly bad.

Don’t be those people who think you are entitled to absolutely perfect software. You’re not.

And it will never be perfect.

 

[dk001]

Beta released.

Impression that something is wrong
- dev - make a note

An infrequent bug
- dev - 1 point

A repeatable bug
- dev - 10 points

A repeatable bug that impacts a key feature
- dev - 25 points

A OMG it broke it bug
- dev - 100 points

As a dev, what should I work on? 😁. Reminder: it’s a beta. And I only have a 100 points to spend.

 

[dk001]

Thought I was seeing things but nope …

iPad Pro 11 G4 in Safari in dark mode.
White text on black background. When you swipe up or down to scroll, the text changes shade from white to blue. Haven’t seen this in a long time and never on this device. Caught it reading last night. Can see it on this site also but much harder for capture in video.
See below.

 

[BriceApp]

I’m not sure if it is a bug in 17.4 (and 17.4.1), or an intended change by Apple, but has iCloud tabs been fixed/reverted back please? Despite all tabs being closed on my iPhone for example, iPad will show the last tab that was open on the iPhone under the iCloud tabs section. Same happens vice versa. On 17.3 and earlier, iCloud tabs only used to show tabs that were actually open.

I am finally home and have updated my iPad to match my iPhone. It appears to be fixed. iCloud tabs don’t stick around and they are the most recent site from the other device.

 

[iLuddite]

Exactly this! This thread and previous beta threads are becoming increasingly frustrating to read because of this issue.

Although there can pervade some negativity among sometimes hyper-critical Apple enthusiasts, I think that there being such a place as MacRumors to gather and vent frustration/enthuse is ultimately good in its purpose and utility. I appreciate everyone here and welcome their input, whether optimistic or otherwise. Sharing frustrations/excitement is a beautiful thing that I believe makes Apple better in the long run, and I still enjoy this community as much as I did years ago.

 

[James6s]

Come across a bug yesterday, using either tap or raise to wake the screen wouldn’t go off again. Soft reset sorted it.

 

[P_Watt]

Although there can pervade some negativity among sometimes hyper-critical Apple enthusiasts, I think that there being such a place as MacRumors to gather and vent frustration/enthuse is ultimately good in its purpose and utility. I appreciate everyone here and welcome their input, whether optimistic or otherwise. Sharing frustrations/excitement is a beautiful thing that I believe makes Apple better in the long run, and I still enjoy this community as much as I did years ago.

Quite. It was my opinion that such an in-your-face error should never have got past in-house testing and come here as a place where criticism is normally welcome. There are enough censors in the Apple sites.

 

[pw5a29]

This is the magic of software development.

The best practice is to encapsulate/isolate/atomize things as much as possible in your code, but sometimes it's very hard and playing with code at one place has repercussions in dozens of places in your project...

And just wanna say having localisation strings issue are the most non-disruptive and harmless bugs there could be, it's being blown up way too heavy.

 

[Pearsey]

Yep you’ve said that a few times lol 😜
I feel 17.4.1 battery life has been good, just don’t want to go backwards again 😄

I’m staying put on 17.4.1.
Nothing about 17.5 is worth the move.

 

[arovik]

I’m staying put on 17.4.1.
Nothing about 17.5 is worth the move.

you're wrong. Battery-life is WAY better in 17.5 than 17.4.1 on my 15 pro.

 

[one more]

you're wrong. Battery-life is WAY better in 17.5 than 17.4.1 on my 15 pro.

Battery life depends on a multitude of factors, including your personal usage patterns and installed 3rd party apps. That is why we often hear seemingly contradictory battery feedback and @Pearsey was highlighting his own experience.

I cannot complain running 17.4.1 on my iPhone 15 either, so perhaps check what could be draining your battery so much in its stats?

 

[arovik]

Battery life depends on a multitude of factors, including your personal usage patterns and installed 3rd party apps. That is why we often hear seemingly contradictory battery feedback and @Pearsey was highlighting his own experience.

I cannot complain running 17.4.1 on my iPhone 15 either, so perhaps check what could be draining your battery so much in its stats?

as i said, the battery is not draining anymore, after upgrading to 17.5