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Tsepz

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Huawei sales in India still strong despite uncertain future
While some carriers and retailers in Europe are reevaluating their relationship with Huawei following its US ban, which made the future of its smartphone business uncertain, sales in India are going as usual with indications of change in the near future.

Croma, one of the leading retail giants in India, stated that Huawei users aren't particularly worried about incoming updates and are confident they will be getting new software features pretty soon.

Ritesh Ghosal, the Chief Marketing Officer at Croma, said that “with its innovative and differentiated technology offerings, Huawei will continue to be one of the sought-after brands” on the Indian market. In the press release, Croma also announced that Huawei P30 Pro owners will receive dual view video and AR measure features very soon, along with the usual security updates.

The retailer is a partner with the Chinese manufacturer and has played a key role in the expansion of Huawei smartphones across the market.
https://m.gsmarena.com/huawei_sales_in_india_still_strong_despite_uncertain_future-news-37311.php
 

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Huawei Flagship Value Sinks As Second Hand Price Crashes
Popular UK trade in shop CEX is buying Huawei P30s and P20s for incredibly low prices. If there’s a good way to judge the value of a product, it’s via the trade-in shops and websites. Trade-in prices vary, but for the latest P30 - which went on sale last month - CEX will give you anywhere between £185 ($230) and just shy of £200 ($252). The top-end model of the P30 Pro goes for between £250 ($315) and £300 ($378). Things get a little more drastic for last year’s P20 and P20 Pro, both of which trade in for under £100 ($126).

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jaymcgregor/2019/05/30/huawei-price-crash-90-drop-best-buy-target-stop-sales-trade-in-crash/#7c3b742b2d6e
 

jamezr

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Imagine if China closed apple's factory in China,? Half of apple phones are made in China's factory.
That would be a huge blow to Apple for sure! But also a big blow tot he China's economy as well. The factories that build iPhones and other Apple products as worth billions and employ hundreds of thousands of Chinese locally.
Foxconn and Pegatron has over 800000 employees. Not all of them build Apple products but that alone is a staggering number of people that build Apple products.
 
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Tsepz

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Hehe,this is getting juicy!
It’s like watching a live game of chess.

Imagine if China closed apple's factory in China,? Half of apple phones are made in China's factory.

Lol, if the US ban is anything to go by, these bans stretch further than expected, if China go ahead with their entity’s list it could cause a ripple effect to other companies that are not even US based.

I am willing to bet China will be incredibly strategic in targeting not just Apple but many vital companies from the USA that rely a lot on China for raw materials and rare earths, this ripple effect could go on to affect even other smartphone manufacturers that depend on some US companies, it could have some seriously dire consequences.

Trump may have woken up a sleeping beast here.

I am loving this more and more they better reach a trade deal soon.

But I think this whole situation has made many companies realize how important it is to rely less and less on China and the USA, this idea of “globalization” is great, but one must not just put their eggs in one or two baskets, but spread it out. I foresee more companies moving HQ to Ireland and Singapore after all this.
 

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Looks like a tech war of chess is about to kick off - how do countries who depend on each other ‘snooker’ the other without impacting themselves?

With everyones finger in the many tech pies, how does one avoid severe collateral damage?...
 

Healer Flame

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Looks like a tech war of chess is about to kick off - how do countries who depend on each other ‘snooker’ the other without impacting themselves?

With everyones finger in the many tech pies, how does one avoid severe collateral damage?...

Exactly.
 

Tsepz

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Looks like a tech war of chess is about to kick off - how do countries who depend on each other ‘snooker’ the other without impacting themselves?

With everyones finger in the many tech pies, how does one avoid severe collateral damage?...

Precisely!

A lot of people keep trying to push the agenda that China will feel worse off or USA will feel worse off, but this will hurt both of them and there will be a lot of collateral damage. We already saw some after the ban was introduced a day later a 90 day grace period had to be given as some networks required Huawei to work on their equipment.
 

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Kuo: Brand trust is Huawei’s big issue after trade ban, Samsung ‘primary beneficiary’

We think the most important impact would be losing brand trust if Huawei couldn’t offer stable shipments due to the U.S. export ban. The motivations of customers (consumers and operators) to buy Huawei products might be lower due to unstable shipments. Also, component suppliers may have a concern about offering differentiation services (e.g., customized components). It’s not easy to save brand trust if it’s gone. Even if the U.S. cancels the export ban, customers may not turn back and buy Huawei products.

https://9to5google.com/2019/06/01/huawei-trade-ban-impact-samsung/
 

Tsepz

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Science publisher IEEE lifts ban on Huawei reviewers
After a temporary ban, the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, commonly known as the IEEE, announced on Monday it has lifted curbs on editors and peer-reviewers that work for Huawei and the Chinese firm’s affiliates.

The reversal is yet another example of the regulatory murkiness in the U.S.-China trade negotiations. In response to the U.S.’s order to bar American companies from conducting businesses with Huawei without government approval, the New York-based scientists’ association last week restricted Huawei and affiliated firms from its peer-review process.

The IEEE said then that the ban should have a “minimal impact” on its members around the world and assured that Huawei was still allowed to submit papers, attend IEEE-hosted conferences and participated in other activities that are open to the public.

The IEEE said it’s revoked the ban on Huawei after consulting the U.S. Department of Commerce on whether the export control restrictions apply to its own publication activities. The association did not provide further details on the exemption, but the move seems consistent with the temporary reprieve that Huawei received from the Commerce Department, as Eurasia Group’s head of geo-technology Paul Triolo pointed out:
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https://techcrunch.com/2019/06/02/ieee-lifts-huawei-curbs/
 

michael9891

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Sounds a bit pointless. "We’re not allowed to do business with you. So in return, you can’t do business with us".
 
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Tsepz

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This makes no sense at all, does this not effectively stop all Chinese OEMs from using Google, Microsoft, Qualcomm and ARM products and IP, meaning that they will suffer globally?
This is like shooting oneself in the foot, it would kill companies like OPPO/OnePlus who use Qualcomm products for example.

I thought China would avoid affecting their Tech companies and rather target companies like Apple and American banks like Goldman Sachs etc...

This could get very ugly for the smartphone industry if they do it like that.
 

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This makes no sense at all, does this not effectively stop all Chinese OEMs from using Google, Microsoft, Qualcomm and ARM products and IP, meaning that they will suffer globally?
This is like shooting oneself in the foot, it would kill companies like OPPO/OnePlus who use Qualcomm products for example.

I thought China would avoid affecting their Tech companies and rather target companies like Apple and American banks like Goldman Sachs etc...

This could get very ugly for the smartphone industry if they do it like that.

If China bans google and the rest of huaweis supply chain, does that mean all Chinese oems will have to adopt Huaweis new os, both inside and outside of China.

Without arm or Qualcomm Chinese oems are pretty much screwed.


Does this mean apple will not be put on China’s entity blacklist.
 

Tsepz

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If China bans google and the rest of huaweis supply chain, does that mean all Chinese oems will have to adopt Huaweis new os, both inside and outside of China.

Without arm or Qualcomm Chinese oems are pretty much screwed.


Does this mean apple will not be put on China’s entity blacklist.

It’s all getting rather confusing and messy really.

I’m sure there is a lot of long discussion being held in China amongst the government and Chinese businesses that have operations outside China.
 

Tsepz

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Well now this is interesting...
China's Huawei signs deal to develop 5G in Russia
China's Huawei, considered a security threat in the United States, signed a deal with Russian telecoms company MTS on Wednesday. Over the next year, Huawei will develop a 5G network in Russia.

The agreement was signed on the sidelines of a meeting between Chinese leader Xi Jinping and Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow.

The deal will see "the development of 5G technologies and the pilot launch of fifth generation networks in 2019-2020", MTS said in a statement.

Quoted in the statement, Huawei's deputy chairman Guo Ping said he was "very happy" with the agreement "in an area of strategic importance like 5G".
https://www.aljazeera.com/ajimpact/china-huawei-signs-deal-develop-5g-russia-190605185112769.html
 
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